Please help me decide for WA

<p>Hey guys,
I'm new here on this forum.
My situation is pretty simple, I was accepted to University of Washington - Seattle, and Seattle Pacific University. In previous years I wouldn't have even considered SPU but after some research and a visit, I've come to a point where I can't decide. I want to go the pre-med path during college and I know that UW has an amazing med school but have heard that their pre-med is non existent and it is hard to succeed. This is why SPU looks attractive because I've seen statistics that show 90th percentages of people who get into med school from SPU pre-med.
And price is no longer an issue because I received a $15k scholarship from SPU which pretty much makes the tuition equal to UW's. </p>

<p>Does anyone have opinions on my issue? Or maybe some approval on the stats that I found? </p>

<p>Thank You!</p>

<p>*I know that UW has an amazing med school but have heard that their pre-med is non existent *</p>

<p>What does that mean?</p>

<p>mom2collegekids, I mean UW literally does not have a dedicated pre-med route. They don’t have guidance counselors that are specific to pre-med as schools that have “pre-profession health” under their majors list. From what I’ve heard, people have to choose classes for themselves and find their own route with minimal help from professors and counselors.</p>

<p>*I mean UW literally does not have a dedicated pre-med route. They don’t have guidance counselors that are specific to pre-med as schools that have “pre-profession health” under their majors list. *</p>

<p>Schools don’t really have a “dedicated pre-med route.” Most schools just have the same pre-med requirements that a student takes along with the req’d classes of a student’s chosen major.</p>

<p>2 semesters of bio
2 sems of Gen Chem
2 sems of OChem
2 sems of physics
1 sem of Calculus</p>

<p>recommended:
biochem
stats</p>

<p>Are you saying that UWash doesn’t have that same list somewhere in its undergrad catalog?</p>

<p>And, UWash doesn’t have any pre-health advisors? That would be very surprising. </p>

<p>From what I’ve heard, people have to choose classes for themselves and find their own route with minimal help from professors and counselors.</p>

<p>??? Since the list is pretty much the same everywhere, I’m not sure what the confusion would be with selecting classes. </p>

<p>I will look on UWash’s website to see if they have anything.</p>

<p>From the UW website…</p>

<p>offers advising services to second-year students, preprofessional students,</p>

<p>That would be for pre-med students.</p>

<p>Here’s pre-med advising info for UWash</p>

<p>[Pre-Health</a> Advising at the UW - Medicine](<a href=“http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/fields/premed.php]Pre-Health”>http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/fields/premed.php)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/about.php[/url]”>http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/about.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You Don’t Have to Do it Alone
The University of Washington has pre-health advisers who help enrolled students prepare for undergraduate or graduate health care programs. We will work with you to plan your academic coursework, discuss your health care experiences, and assist with the application process. There’s no “right” way to prepare for these programs; working with an adviser can help you to individualize the pre-health information in this web site to your situation.</p>

<p>How do I meet with an adviser?</p>

<p>Information Sessions
Pre-medical and pre-dental students must attend an information session before meeting with an academic adviser. This will help you to ask well-informed questions during your advising appointment. Information session times and locations can be found here.</p>

<p>Appointments
If you are a currently-enrolled student or a graduate of the University of Washington, you can make a 30-minute appointment with a pre-health adviser in UAA Advising by calling 206-543-2550. You can also come to 141 Mary Gates Hall to set up an appointment.</p>

<p>Here is the link for the UWash pre-med pre-reqs</p>

<p>[Pre-Health</a> Advising at the UW - Medicine](<a href=“http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/fields/premed.php]Pre-Health”>http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/prehealth/fields/premed.php)</p>

<p>I used the word semester above, but now I realize that UWash is on the quarter system, so adjust as needed. The recommended course sequences are on the bottom of this page.</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies.
First off, I’m a guy.
Secondly, the information given on the website is somewhat misleading. Since I live in Seattle, I’ve had many friends go to UW and tell me that the counselors are worthless and they tend to push kids away because of the ridiculous amount of undergrads. I know enough about UW from personal review and actually going there many times that it’s a bit…unappealing to me. But the problem is, is that I don’t know much about SPU to make it a clear decision.</p>

<p>Sorry, I though you were a girl. Sorry. :)</p>

<p>* tell me that the counselors are worthless and they tend to push kids away because of the ridiculous amount of undergrads*</p>

<p>I have no idea if the counselors are worthless or not. Are you talking about counseling in general for particular majors? or counseling for pre-med? </p>

<p>it looks to me that UWash does what many schools do. They delay more serious pre-med counseling until sophomore year because so many “pre-med” students are weeded out when they don’t do well in General Chem or OChem. </p>

<p>That said, there really isn’t much “decision making” as to course selection as a pre-med student. You do your major and you include the listed pre-med req’ts (which are pretty much the same everywhere…they’re not a secret!). The order that you take those courses is listed on the bottom of the last link.</p>

<p>The other things that you need to do are listed as well in “year by year” order. What’s not to understand? what would be confusing?</p>

<p>What is your likely major? </p>

<p>Anyway…it seems that you really don’t like UW, so I guess the other school may be better for you.</p>

<p>Isn’t UWash referred to University of Washington in St. Louis? </p>

<p>And I’m just a student that likes to have teachers or professors available whenever I want and I know UW isn’t the school for that. </p>

<p>I’m an intended bio major. Although if I went to UW, I’d likely go into neurobio but at SPU I’d choose either cell bio or molecular bio.</p>

<p>^its usually typed WashU and University of Washington is UW. </p>

<p>I have a good friend who is very smart and chose SPU (full scholarship) over UW (I believe she had a full ride there too…) because for pre-med it would be less competitive for her and virtually the same, maybe better, for her chances in getting into med school.
So if you want to be a big fish in a small pond, maybe SPU is a good choice. </p>

<p>Btw congrats! I’m applying to both schools next year :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>*Isn’t UWash referred to University of Washington in St. Louis?
*</p>

<p>No, that is… Washington University in St. Louis… aka … WashU or WUSTL</p>

<p>It is NOT…the University of Washington in St. Louis. </p>

<p>I know that UW is the shorthand for UWashington, but since UWisconsin uses UW also, it’s more clear to put UWash or UW-Madison (or UWisc) to distiquish between the schools.</p>

<p>That said…it sounds like SPU is better for you.</p>

<p>I heard lots of stuff about SPU premedical program. Is quite competitive there as well from what i heard.</p>

<p>Around here it’s just UDub. The nobody gets confused. I’d bet Udub puts 20 times more grads in med schools than SPU.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>Probably…isn’t UWash a much bigger school with a LOT more pre-meds?</p>

<p>However, it sounds like the OP doesn’t like UWash for some reason. It doesn’t sound like the OP’s chances will be hurt by going to this smaller school.</p>

<p>yes and the advantage is that many med schools are used to taking some Udub grads every year. Many of the same never heard of SPU.</p>

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If you need a lot of hand holding, UDub is probably not the school for you. You will definitely get a lot more attention at SPU … that is, if you don’t mind going to a 3rd tier school with students coming in with SAT in the range of 1490-1840.</p>

<p>If you want a smaller school, why didn’t you appy to Whitman College or Seattle University?</p>

<p>The OP is comparing an extremely large and bureaucratic state university with what is essentially a small liberal arts college; that’s apples and oranges.</p>