Please help mom help son with AP class questions that I dont understand!

<p>Wow ucbalumnus…you’re so impressive. I spent an hour on the UCDavis website & couldnt find anything! And its like magic, you pull it out of a hat!</p>

<p>Do you have one for the College of Engineering? Because isnt it different than the Humanities? idk maybe I’m wrong?</p>

<p>& calla1: I ask my son today to pick 3 colleges he wanted to go to he said, Cal Poly SLO, UCSD & UC Davis. But I just found out that UCSD declared all they’re engineering majors impacted so dont even bother applying! </p>

<p>But I think he can get in to one of these. Can’t he? His GPA is like 4.12 And he got 179 on the PSAT in Sept. 10th gr. So I figure if he studies this time before the SAT and he has another year to get smarter he could get the 2000 it takes to get into one of those. </p>

<p>Or am I fooling myself?</p>

<p>Actually, he can apply to UCSD engineering majors, but would face a higher admission standard, or may not be admitted to the major.</p>

<p>For UCD engineering, it looks like the GE3 requirements do not include a foreign language requirement. Here is the GE3 sheet pre-filled with some courses of a mechanical and aerospace engineering major: <a href=“http://mae.ucdavis.edu/programs/u_studies/documents/GE3%20Degree%20Check%20ALL.pdf[/url]”>http://mae.ucdavis.edu/programs/u_studies/documents/GE3%20Degree%20Check%20ALL.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>How is the 4.12 GPA weighted, and what is the unweighted GPA? He may want to include other less selective schools to avoid the possibility of a shutout.</p>

<p>Kids: Those schools are very competitive. His PSAT converts to a 1790, so you may want to have him take an SAT prep class over the summer. Engineering at most of the UC’s is impacted. SLO is an aggie school, does he really want that kind of environment? You never know until you visit.<br>
My son thought he wanted that environment and then discovered that its in the middle of nowhere and he didn’t like it.
You work on the visits, and he’ll work on the school choices.</p>

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<p>Maybe he likes such schools, since one of his other choices is UC Davis?</p>

<p>He thinks he likes Civil Engineering. </p>

<p>Thanks. I have signed him up to take a SAT Prep course over the summer. </p>

<p>Is Cal Poly Pomona as good or as hard to get into as Cal Poly SLO?</p>

<p>And whats an Aggie school? I dont understand what kind of environment you’re referring to??</p>

<p>I think he’s as nieve as I am. </p>

<p>All he did was ask his APCalc teacher whats a good engineering school.</p>

<p>I know 1790 isnt a good SAT, but isnt it good for a 10th grade PSAT??</p>

<p>CPSLO is generally harder to get into than CPP. CPSLO is also more of a residential college (with more of the stereotypical “college life”), while CPP has a higher percentage of commuter students.</p>

<p>“Aggie” school means that there is a relatively large number of students studying agricultural subjects. Note that UCD’s sports teams are named Aggies, which replaced Mustangs in 1997 (note that CPSLO’s sports teams are named Mustangs).</p>

<p>[Undergraduate</a> Majors ? College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences](<a href=“http://caes.ucdavis.edu/StudInfo/ps/ugmajors]Undergraduate”>http://caes.ucdavis.edu/StudInfo/ps/ugmajors)
[Departments</a> - College of Agriculture, Food and Environmental Sciences - Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo](<a href=“http://cafes.calpoly.edu/departments.html]Departments”>http://cafes.calpoly.edu/departments.html)</p>

<p>The state universities in California that have civil engineering are:</p>

<p>California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State University, Chico
California State University, Fresno
California State University, Fullerton
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University, Northridge
California State University, Sacramento
San Diego State University
San Francisco State University
San Jose State University
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles</p>

<p>Since there is one application for UCs and one for CSUs, the only additional cost to apply to more than one of each is the application fee for each.</p>

<p>wow thats also a big help! Thanks so much.</p>

<p>I’m going to show him this list tomorrow. He’s going to have to pick the ones that he likes & find out which ones have the foreign language requirement. Because Thursday is the last day of school and the last chance he has to change his request list for next years classes!</p>

<p>And whats an Aggie school? I dont understand what kind of environment you’re referring to??</p>

<p>[National</a> Space Grant College and Fellowship Program](<a href=“http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-grant_university]National”>National Space Grant College and Fellowship Program - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>In the old days, they were land grant universities.</p>

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<p>Too bad that he got that impression, because it just ain’t true. Ag sciences totals ~12% of the undergrads.</p>

<p>There are twice as many engineers on campus than there are ‘ag science’ majors. Heck, the number of undergrad biz majors (approximately) equals the number of ‘ag’ majors. SLO also has an extremely strong architecture program, as well as Education.</p>

<p>So, are you going to make him take the 3rd year of foreign language? I HIGHLY SUGGEST he take a minimum of 3 years of HS Foreign Language.</p>

<p>The engineering divisions are much less likely to have foreign language graduation requirements, although if he changes major into a non-engineering major, he may then have to face a foreign language requirement to graduate.</p>

<p>The AP Bio exam this year was actually all reading graphs and logic. If this trend continues, I don’t think there will be much memorization in AP Bio anymore.</p>

<p>Ok, I talked with him last night & he’s on the fence between Honors Physics that he wants and Spanish 3 that he’s almost convinced that he will have to take in College…and if he finds out that he does, he agrees it would be easier in HS.</p>

<p>I called the counselor this morning and she agreed that he would be more competitive with the 3 years of spanish. </p>

<p>Only problem is that she wants to him to take both (Honors physics & spanish3) & move his VA class (theatre) to his senior year. </p>

<p>Which would put him in too many hard classes in 11th grade too overwhelming, and with 7 classes (0 period) again in 12th grd. which we were trying to avoid.</p>

<p>We would be back to square one at the beginning of this post…</p>

<p>She said the principal is insisting that all Jr. take a science and she has to get his approval to do that. </p>

<p>So…here I wait.</p>

<p>You know since I have all you very smart people here helping me right now, can I ask an AP question about my other son.</p>

<p>He’s taking 4 AP’s next year (12th grade) and he’s taking AP Enviromental Science as his science.</p>

<p>He’s going to major in Business or Finance or Mathmatics, something like that. </p>

<p>Will that class count as a College GE Science requirement for that degree?</p>

<p>Thanks.
sorry if thats confusing that I’m throwing another kid in the mix! lol</p>

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<p>Depends on the college (unfortunately).</p>

<p>it would probably be a UC or CSU or Ariz U or State???</p>

<p>Colleges want the core Science AP’s—AP Bio, AP Chem, AP Physics. Many colleges don’t even acknowledge AP Environmental Science.</p>

<p>Instead of your boys trying to fulfill the minimum for couple of colleges, they should focus on strengthening their academic substance while casting a much wider net regarding college options. What colleges they think they want now, may very well be much different than what they find themselves wanting mid-late Senior year. For this reason alone, they should complete the typical core sciences as well as at LEAST three years of foreign language. </p>

<p>Think of it this way. They are completing against others in an entire application pool. Yes, they have taken AP’s, but they are going to be up against many other students who have done the same and more. By taking the HS minimum requirements (such as only 2 years of foreign language) for specific colleges now, they are limiting their college choice options in the future.</p>

<p>typo—“completing” should be “competing” :)</p>