<p>Since so many of us are awaiting are EA or ED decisions, imminently, would those of you who remember, share with us some stats that were "rejects" last year? Esp. interested in Yale/Princeton decisions. I found the "last year's CC Yale EA" thread that was brought up again really scary. Have applied to Yale EA and P RD.<br>
I also would be also esp. be interested in information in what happened with top grads of small private high schools.</p>
<p>Whoops: <em>our</em> decisions. (Didn't do this on my essays!)</p>
<p>Honey, anything goes. My class had three fabulous candidates for Yale and they were ALL deferred (recruited athlete, intellectual philosopher, and an amazing singer and they were all very smart kids!). All rejected at the end but ended at great colleges- Cornell, Chicago, and Amherst.</p>
<p>Ticklemepink, I think you have joined the order of parenthood now and without giving birth! Couldn't help but smile at your post. :)</p>
<p>I meant that in a good way.</p>
<p>classicist, you can see the old threads for yourself. Many of us don't dare to take a trip to the "old board" where the Yale CC threads exist....too scary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/57277/40255.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/57277/40255.html</a>
Here's Yale's</p>
<p>And Princeton...
<a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/57277/39455.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/57277/39455.html</a></p>
<p>TMP, my D (Classicist: 1580/2330/3.9uw) was rejected outright at Yale and is one of your classmates. :)</p>
<p>Classicist, having gone through the downs and ups, if it works out, great. If it doesn't work out, also great. Of the "better" schools that D applied to, I don't regret Stanford or Harvard for a minute. Yale...that would be tougher except that when I make comparisons of reports from first-year Yale students to first-year Smith students...I think my D wound up with the better deal.</p>
<p>One of the things that I wish I could get "out there" is that, a year later, so many things that seemed mortally important then don't matter a bit now. And some of it is what I call "bride magazine" effect...some of it is intensely important but only for a short intense period of time.</p>
<p>Achat, yeah, I think TMP's got a lot on the ball. But I suppose the lot of you would throw me into a barrell and roll it downhill if I suggested that that wasn't uncommon with the women at Smith I've met.</p>
<p>Not sure how knowing last years EA applicant stats will help, but OK. Son applied EA at Yale ranked 2 out of 530 at public hs, 1540 SAT, multiple AP, club leadership positions, crew. Deferred and ultimately rejected. Very happy at current non-Ivy school.</p>
<p>D last year was 1560/800/780/750, 3.97 UW, #2/700, NMSF/F/S. Applied EA to Yale and was rejected outright. She is currently very happy at Harvard</p>
<p>Momsdream, You may have shrugged it off about visiting or revisiting the old threads, but you should know that it was very helpful to me in my mental preparation. I went to those links. First off, it showed the range of acceptances and the range of rejections & deferrals: it showed that there was no real pattern (except maybe more consistenly difficult for internat'ls). Since so many people did not get in who had great stats (better than mine!), yet some people <em>did</em> get in with so-so stats (not as good as mine), it's obviously not just about the scorings, although it's too bad that so many applicants are still looking at it only as a logical numbers game. The only part that bothers me is that it defies credibility that a school can "build a class" with 1.5 minutes per application. This I classify as split-second judgment. I cannot read my own succinct summaries & take it all in (not essays, just the brief attachments to the app) in 1.5 min. I actually have to ponder for like half a second. So to me, the confusion & irrationality & "insanity" of it all is not the "illogical" acceptances & rejections; it's the lack of time to weigh whether the lower scorer will be a better Yalie or Princetonian than the higher scorer, etc. Genetically altered brains?</p>
<p>But the good news is that both links gave me information & perspective, especially building to the Yale grad student who weighed in at the end about the relative value of top-tier vs. non-top-tier undergrad schools. That got a good discussion going, & actually made me feel a little ambivalent about going to Yale! </p>
<p>This is just what I wanted: not just philosophical preparation, but practical information. My teachers have recommended me highly to Ivies, but also feel that I will thrive in a small LAC that would be similar to my fab h.s. It was also useful to see the high admit #'s of partic. northeastern h.s.'s, because (being from the West) I have been warned about that. I go to an unusually high performing h.s. with some visibility on the East Coast, but I know what I'm up against -- or at least, the links helped me remember.</p>
<p>Ya know, nowdays with powerful computers and spreadsheets, why can't they (THE COMMITTEES) have some sort of big, real time tote board displayed on the wall as they are meeting and accepting people. It could have also sorts "special categories" - sailor, dollmaker, bassoonist (;), coureur), and keep a running calculation of GPA, average class rank, number of vals and sals, and SATs. I'm only joking a little, with a little time and know-how, I'm sure it would work.
That's how I think they build a class with 1.5 minutes time - get those apps in early, or maybe that's part of the randomness of it - they need one more tuba player, and your number comes up next!</p>
<p>TheDad: One of the things that I wish I could get "out there" is that, a year later, so many things that seemed mortally important then don't matter a bit now. And some of it is what I call "bride magazine" effect...some of it is intensely important but only for a short intense period of time.</p>
<p>Very well said. Having been through the parent-side of this process twice (and once more to go) I think I will print out your words in 36 point type and hang it over my daughter's desk.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>I cannot read my own succinct summaries & take it all in (not essays, just the brief attachments to the app) in 1.5 min.<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Where are you getting this 1.5 minute number from? The number I recall last year from a Stanford adcom was that each app got looked at for about 20 or so minutes.</p>