<p>^
Let's agree that the statistics are playing against you rather than for you. I can understand the SAT discrepancy, though, because you're an international student, and I'm guessing colleges might also. However, your country of residence, or first language, etc., does not change your GPA. The ECs are not anything out of the ordinary, also.</p>
<p><thinking strategically="">....say i focus all my energy and all my hope on one college...Brown Or NYU for instance...and ofcoarse i'll clearify that on the "extra" essay...and say they really like me as an individual regardless of the numbers (you see its ALWAYS THE NUMBERS,NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS haha) do you think i might stand a chance?...cuz really,an acceptance at NYU or Brown could very well mean the world to me and im planning on clearifying that on the essay....any thoughts fellow CCers?</thinking></p>
<p>There is always a reason for those exceptions. (Extremely talented at sports, show prodigiously exceptional leadership, parents donate millions to the college)</p>
<p>I think if you do very well on those SAT 2's and write exceptional essays and apply ED 2 to AU, you might have a 25% chance. It would be best, however, if you find time for retaking the SAT 1's.</p>
<p>^
Everyone has a chance. College admissions are partly luck. Since you wrote you won't be needing financial aid, that's good, because I know many schools aren't willing to give financial aid to international students (which I don't think is very nice, but whatever).</p>
<p>Writing a great essay will only increase those chances, but I remember something a Yale admissions officer told me: "No one thing can erase a 4-year academic record."</p>
<p>hmmm...but why is it that CCers have different expectations than councellors or top tier alumni...a guy from my class has amazing ECs,merely a 1720,3.3GPA his councellor gave him a list of :</p>
<p>-Princeton
-Stanford(SCEA/Rejected)
-Lehigh
-Columbia
-BU
-GW
-NYU
-Yale</p>
<p>^
Was he accepted? </p>
<p>Also, I think you'd get more accurate suggestions if you described the level of classes you've taken.</p>
<p>-grade 9:all classes are mandatory
-Grade 10:6 subjects..none were really hard
-Grade 11:7 Subjects...Advanced English(which is considered "rigorous" at our school"
-Grade 12:7 Subs 3 of which are AP courses (difficult courses)</p>
<p>^bro, look at these decisions from Stanford applicants:</p>
<p>out of the acceptances, how many international students do you see with 3.1 GPA and >1800 SAT??? there's plenty of resources on this forum that will give you a good idea of what your chances are. </p>
<p>i'm really not trying to be harsh... but there's usually no place for someone with stats like yours at an Ivy League/top 10-15 school. </p>
<p>actually, you would probably have trouble getting into more than a few state schools as well. much less all the privates you have on your list.</p>
<p>since your international im going to assume you dont no much but american schools and those are prolly the only american colleges you have heard of. research less competitive schools.</p>
<p>so i took 25 classes througout highschool
-English(2 years)
-Ap Advanced English(2 years)
-Math(4 years)
-Arabic(4 years)
-French(1 year)
-Biology(2 years)
-AP Psychology(1 year)
-AP European History(1 year)
-Advanced Business(2 years)
-Economics(3 years)
-World History(3 years)</p>
<p>What do you want to study? Are you passionate about anything? Try finding a school that is very good at what you want to do, educate your parents about your realistic chances at the dream schools, and "try to make a match rather than win a prize." I think when you can maturely speak to your parents about the reality of what you wnat and what you can obtain, you may find them becoming more flexible about which schools they'll consider allowing you to apply to. Also, some of the European schools, like St Andrews in Scotland, you may have a chance in and might satisfy your parents if they're looking strictly for prestige.</p>
<p>Princeton's 368 Top Colleges guide is very helpful for summarizing the big picture at each school.</p>
<p>im reallllllly passionate about business and economics and stuff...but basically business....i made $600 in less than a week when i was 9...used more than half of the money to buy birthday gifts for my parents,bought video games and books with some of it and then i gave out the rest to random poor people on the street</p>
<p>I'd be stunned if you got into any them. I second that you look at less competitive schools</p>
<p>The only school on that list I would think you have any shot at all of possibly getting is American University. Brown as with all the ivy's and other top schools on your list are impossible. I'm sorry to put it that way, but it is true. </p>
<p>Look at universities where your SAT score is at least the median if not higher. You do not need a top 50 university to be successful. Any university/LAC in the top 200 are great schools and many would love to admit a student like you.</p>
<p>I am trying to put it realistically and i would be extremely surprised if you managed to get into american. Students at or below the bottem 25% in SAT scores without amazing grades (3.9+/4.0 UW) only have a chance if they are legacies, under represented minorities (not you in this case), RECRUITED athletes and things like that. Therefore I would say American is a pretty large reach.</p>
<p>reach for all, best chances are American and GW tho</p>
<p>Wow. Those reaches are definitely UP THERE for you. You're going to need one heck of a ladder.</p>
<p>i agree you really ought to research different schools. Perhaps you might look at the B+ student thread for some suggestions. After you do some research then I'd sit your parents down and explain there's virtually no chance of you getting into any of these schools they have selected for you, but that you believe you may have a chance at the following schools because they suit your GPA and SAT scores better. Promise them you will apply to whatever ones they want, and are willing to pay the application fee for (who knows, maybe you will get lucky somehow!), but that to be safe, you wish to apply to the following just in case April arrives and you have a handful of rejection letters and its too late to apply somewhere else. Sorry, I hope this isn't hurting your feelings, but what everyone is tellling you is true; all of those schools you listed are reaches or extreme reaches for you.</p>
<p>take a look at Tulane, CUNY-Baruch, skidmore, Occidental as matches/high matches with school like St John's Univ, FSU as a safeties. Babson looks like a fit for you too. Keep AmerU and GW as reaches. Forget the others maybe nYu, but really a longshot...</p>
<p>FSU as a safety? lol. That'd be harder to get into than American as an OOS. I like Tulane in this case. Baruch as well.</p>