<p>If anyone has College Compass access to USNWR (paid subscription), please post the full list of 2013 Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (where doctorate not offered). Please also list the rankings for each of the specialties, or at the very least just for Mechanical. Thanks!</p>
<p>First, this really is unethical. If you want paid content, pay for it. </p>
<p>On a completely different note, those rankings are based 100% on institutional reputation as compiled from mailed out surveys. Take the results with a grain of salt.</p>
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<p>It’s funny, I think adult college graduates take the rankings more seriously than parents looking to send their kids to college. I understand the reason behind it, I just think it’s just amusing.</p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind is that different from the Grad schools rankings, the undergrad ranking are entirely based on peer review, meaning surveys sent out and returned. I did not realize this until recently.</p>
<p>Grad school rankings have other objective variables such as test scores, number of degrees given or money spent on research to at least compare somethings that are solid.</p>
<p>The whole concept of a yearly ranking system is sort of silly. Institutional change happens at a glacial pace. Sure schools change, but over decades, not in the period of a year. Yet, institutions can move many slots up or down in a period of 365 days. REALLY? This is just an effort to sell books by exploiting our need to be told what is “the best.” Face it, schools are different, but my ranking system may be totally different than yours based on my criteria and in reality there are a lot more similarities than differences between schools. That doesn’t sell books though does it. </p>
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<p>It’s very amusing…</p>
<p>…then again I guess for those folks that take a major that has more folks looking for jobs than there are actual openings, maybe they THINK the rankings matter.</p>
<p>First of all, I have paid for this content the past 2 years when I was researching to send my child off to college. I don’t need that much information this year so it’s not worth it for me to pay for it again. </p>
<p>Second, I am ONLY looking for the above information, to see how the rankings changed from last year. I can and will eventually get this information for free by thumbing through the magazine at the bookstore or library, which by the way, is accessible to the general public. Therefore I do not consider it unethical AT ALL, not sure why anyone would. I was just asking for the convenience to see it now. It is almost always posted on CC every year anyway, go look.</p>
<p>It is almost always posted. It is also almost certainly a violation of the site’s terms of service to do so and is just often overlooked.</p>
<p>You have the previous two years. It honestly won’t be much different and if it is, that’s ridiculous for all the aforementioned reasons.</p>
<p>This is unethical.</p>
<p>if you want, pay for it</p>
<p>YOU VOULD ALWAYS USE THE GRAD RANKING. i MIGHT BE MORE ACCURATE.</p>
<p>what’s the point of researching for your kid. If your kid wants to go to some university he should look it up himself. He’s the one going to college not you.
And also, what you’re saying is like you paid for annual subscriptions for two years and then you expect it to be free the next year just because you paid for it before. It doesn’t work that way.</p>
<p>I posted it here dude:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cal-poly-pomona/1391081-2013-u-s-news-rankings-regional-university-west-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cal-poly-pomona/1391081-2013-u-s-news-rankings-regional-university-west-rankings.html</a></p>
<p>Oh OP, I forgot mention that the engineering rankings for undergraduate (non-PhD) are in the third reply. Cheers!</p>
<p>I think she was looking for the undergraduate engineering programs at institutions that offer doctorates (ie national universities). I would also be interested in seeing the list, and sharing the information is not at all unethical. It may be a violation of the website’s terms of service, but they change an obnoxiously high amount for such trivial information. Also, as mentioned previously, the rankings aren’t entirely objective anyways, so you shouldn’t have to pay $35 for something you’re just mildly interested in. If you actually look in depth into college admissions, maybe it makes sense. Otherwise you’re getting ripped off.</p>
<p>Thank you very much CEinCali!</p>