Positive and Negative: Univ. of Alabama Honors College

That seems to be said for calculus 2 in many colleges.

But that is probably because:

  • Some of the material in calculus 2 is probably more difficult than the material in calculus 1.
  • Students taking calculus 2 in the fall probably had the slower paced calculus AB in high school, so adjusting to college generally and the faster paced courses may add to the increased difficulty.
  • Students taking calculus 2 in the spring after calculus 1 probably never had calculus before, or had a low quality high school calculus course, or did poorly in high school calculus.

In contrast, the students who skip calculus 2 and go directly to calculus 3 and/or linear algebra tend to be among the stronger students in math compared the frosh population in general. So they are less likely to think that math (generally or any specific math course) is hard.

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Weā€™ve heard the same about calc 2. And I know it was the hardest calc I took back in the 80s too. He will have it next semester. We will see but I exp ct him to be fine, really. Heā€™s strong in math but had IB math and missed a lot over the past 2 years so started at calc 1 just to be sure he was good.

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My son is at Bama in MechE. I got a PM asking about taking linear algebra so I asked him to advise the person asking.

He had Calc AB in HS. Started calc 2. Had to retake. Then took calc 3.

He said you donā€™t take linear algebra and he had no idea what it even is.

Not sure if that helps here but thought Iā€™d throw it out.

Itā€™s been a while but I took linear algebra simultaneously with Calc 3 in high school and it was a lot but I donā€™t think the order you take them are that important.

My daughter is minoring in math, and Linear Algebra is one of the requirements for that minor. Some of the engineering majors require Linear Algebra (Math 237) while others require Differential Equations (Math 238).

https://catalog.ua.edu/undergraduate/arts-sciences/mathematics/courses/

Oh - makes sensee - he took the Diff EQ. Heā€™s mechanical.

He considered a minor in math but heā€™s two classes short. He did do one in geography which he enjoys.

When I asked him for a dad whose kid got one of the full tuition plus year of housing scholarshps - my son was like - I have no clue what linear algebra is :slight_smile:

Our son went to a different school for mechanical engineering and linear algebra was required. The math sequence was Calc. I, II, III, differential eq w/linear, and then linear algebra. Having all the math seemed to help with some of the higher level engineering courses.

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Well, from what I am gathering, it depends on how diff equations is taught. If you are doing multivariate, then having a good background and understanding of linear algebra is necessary ā€“ eigen functions, matrices etc. Maybe the prof covers that in AL? If it is just single variable stuff then maybe just basic knowledge will do? Some schools break up diff equations into 1 & 2.
Anyhow, there was a recent thread on FB AL engineering group where the recommendation was discrete, linear, calc 3 and then calc 4.

Iā€™m so glad i majored in history and broadcast journalism. I have no idea what any of this stuff is!!!

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At Alabama for ME, the linear algebra is part of the Engineering Analysis class (ME 349).

When I was in college for ME, my school did it the same - Numerical Method was an ME class and included linear algebra and learning MATLAB.

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Yeah I just asked my son. He texted back

ā€˜Yeah not a bad class the linear part is very basic and you learn all of what you need to. If itā€™s not listed as a one you need to take before then you donā€™t have toā€™

I know about MATLAB and CAD he felt it was lacking as far as what u get but likely the same at many schools.

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How does UA calculate GPA for the purposes of scholarships and Honors College admissions?

They use whatever GPA is listed on your high school transcript. No re-calculating or re-weighting.

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Thank you! I have a junior who is right at 4.0 weighted - I assume it matters whatā€™s reported on the final HS transcript and heā€™ll have to watch that number to the end of senior year?

Alabama does not consider senior year grades for for admission and scholarships. So, the one that matters is his end of the year grade as a junior.

Wow, thatā€™s great! He has a shot at the Presidential Elite!

Thatā€™s great. So, he has 1600 SAT/36 ACT?
Scholarships are already out and unless he is a NMF/NRP scholar, it should be in his portal already.

No, heā€™s a junior and he does have a 36 composite, one sitting. His unweighted is 3.6 or so. Thatā€™s why Iā€™m asking about how UA calculates GPA and if itā€™s a GPA for all 4 years. Weā€™re in Georgia, so for example the HOPE and Zell Miller scholarships count all 4 years. UA is a very compelling option if he does end up qualifying for the Presidential Elite, and if UA keeps offering this scholarship! Wow!

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He has to hit 4.0 weighted, then he will be good:

PRESIDENTIAL ELITE

A student with a 4.0+ GPA and 36 ACT OR 1600 SAT will be selected as a Presidential Elite Scholar and will receive:

  • Value of tuition for up to four years or eight semesters for degree-seeking undergraduate and graduate or law studies
  • First year of on-campus housing at regular room rate (based on assignment by Housing and Residential Communities)
  • $1,000 per year supplemental scholarship for four years
  • $2,000 one-time allowance for use in summer research or international study (after completing one year of study at UA)
  • $500 per year Supe Store book scholarship for four years
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Also forgot to add, he will get another $2500 automatic if he is in the college of engineering. That could be engineering or CS. Not sure what he is looking to study. More scholarships might be possible if he applies for various ā€œscholarsā€ programs like Blount, Randal, EPIC etc. But it is not guaranteed.