Post stats if Admitted to Ivy without astonishing Stats

<p>I concur with Mallomar. I personally believe that if you can communicate sheer passion about any subject, honestly, then you are about as guaranteed an admit as you're going to get. Depending on your interest, stats are definitely a secondary concern for you. I'm still not sure what your child is interested in, ParentOfIvyHope, because interest in Ivy schools doesn't communicate much. Your child should be interested in any school that satisfies her particular academic interests...if she's not, perhaps she's overconcerned with the prestige of the Ivies. I don't know her, so I couldn't say, but...meh.</p>

<p>were you accepted for the class of 2011? no ivy gives academic scholarships</p>

<p>I agree with arkleseizure. You can't just apply to "the Ivies" because they are Ivy League. Those who are truly Ivy League "material" understand that certain of the Ivies will meet their academic interests and other criteria while other Ivies will not. The applicant's criteria should be more than just "I have my heart set on an Ivy League school."</p>

<p>Dartmouth...</p>

<p>SAT
2240 SuperScore: 700CR, 800M, 740W
2160 SingleSitting: 640 CR, 800M, 720 W</p>

<p>SAT IIs
790 Math II, 750 Physics, 740 US History</p>

<p>GPA: 4.0 uw/4.66w</p>

<p>AP National Scholar; Captain of tennis team; mock trial attorney; piano eleven years. I think that's the gist of it.</p>

<p>To the OP:
I think the issues are these:</p>

<p>(1) No it's not impossible to get into an "Ivy" without super-scores, super-e.c's, super-GPA's, super-awards. It's just that it lowers one's odds, and not because they are only looking for the super-students, but because among all the "other" qualities they are looking for, generally they can <em>also</em> find those qualities among the highly accomplished group who will apply, and that group applies in largest number to Ivies.</p>

<p>Also think of it in the micro. If you do the math and really break it down, on a regional basis (let's say large metro regions, not whole States or portions of the country), there are often less than 20 available seats for that region, for example in the Early Round for an Ivy (and a similar number in the R Round). They want a geographical representation. When you have hundreds of seniors applying to that school during that cycle (and there can be), the chances that a 3.7 will be noticed among that group, is smaller. </p>

<p>So much of it is luck, for that 3.7 to be noticed: standing out among a group in his region where he or she may look to be quite dissimilar in some very attractive way, to the others -- AND having the luck to have a particularly thoughtful, insightful admissions rep reviewing his or her file.</p>

<p>(2) "Ivy" is not the determiner of excellence. The situation is this: if the student wants to be on the East Coast, wants a private U, wants a secular U, and wants a very demanding school with very well-trained peers, also wants some of the perks that go with private schooling, then it's likely he or she will want to apply to Ivies. There are other colleges & U's like that on the East Coast, just not as popular or widely known, in some cases.</p>

<p>If the student cares less about location, and just wants a very demanding school, and a "prestigious" school, there are many more alternatives than just Ivies. Georgetown? Chicago? The Claremont Colleges in the West? CalTech? Rice? And if "prestige" is not an issue (it really shouldn't be, because as others have said, "prestige" is an artificial label), then the field opens up even more. And I'm just sticking with the privates here. If you were to branch out to U's with as much prestige as Ivies, etc., you could look at publics such as Berkeley, UVA, William & Mary, etc.</p>

<p>Does the student want "prestige"? Or does the student want quality? Two different questions.</p>

<p>All very interesting input.</p>

<p>idk if this really counts because i had a major hook, but i had two huge disads coming in</p>

<p>WEIGHTED gpa: 3.6
east asian female from MA
dismal class rank, not top 10%</p>

<p>got into penn</p>

<p>momentum, I'll bet you had a great application, though. UPenn's app takes much more work than the common app & even many of the supplements to those. Congratulations.</p>

<p>momentum, what was your major hook?</p>

<p>I'm really surprised, a lot of students at my school with even higher UW/W get rejected. The thing is, so many students apply to one school in a given year that they ruin each other's chances [Haha, I wonder if this even makes any sense.]</p>

<p>Yeah, momentum, what were your ECs and awards? Also, what was your SAT score?</p>

<p>MChong, an SAT score over 2100, a 4.0 UW, and three SATII's over 700 do not add up to mediocre stats.</p>

<p>can someone please tell me my approximate chances of getting into princeton</p>

<p>i plan to be a bio major (if that means anything)</p>

<p>i attend the bronx high school of science
GPA: 93.5 (92 right now hope to get it up) this is unweighted
i have taken honors chemistry, honors physics, honors alg/trig, honors english 5
i also have a reseach internship at a local college and i plan on submitting my work to intel, nycef, siemens etc
i plan on taking A.P Biology, A.P Microeconmics, A.P Calculas AB, INtel prjects, Computer technology, A.p english language and composition, and linear algebra and differential equations. I also plan to take general psychology and political affairs at a local college.</p>

<p>SAT 2's: Bio 710 plan on taking math IIC and u.s history and am expecting 800 on both.
SAT: expecting around a 2250 (based on practice tests)
ACT: expecting a 34 (based on practice tests)</p>

<p>extraciricular: 1 year of cyber club, 1 year of pre-med club, 1 year of key club
job at a local hospital, internship at a doctors office, internship at a fortune 500 company, a lot of volunteering, i plan on joing the crew team, key club, robotics, do some more volunteering and i have also won a distinguished key clubbers award</p>

<p>also from a single parent family</p>

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math IIC and u.s history and am expecting 800 on both

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<p>slightly overconfident, no?</p>

<p>someone respond to my chances please.</p>

<p>Princeton admission is equivalent to winning the lottery, so whether I or anyone else believe that you qualify, it is too hard to handicap. Consider Carnegie Mellon University in Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>2340 sat, 740+ on all sat 2
major hook: #1 in the country in major academic/intellectual extracurricular, on nat team for world championship for the activity</p>

<p>do i have at least decent chances?</p>

<p>Sure. Your scores and grades seem fine.</p>

<p>does the single parent thing help a lot?</p>

<p>For aid. Beyond that...not really (at least that I know of)</p>