<p>Skidmore A/P Summer Arts- my daughter attended pre-college program there -she is currently in grad school so it is awhile ago-but a great program in an idyllic setting-she had a merit award but I think it was pretty reasonable regardless.</p>
<p>medicatedsoap, when did you go to risd? </p>
<p>also, is anyone going to do/has done sva pre college?</p>
<p>Hi, high school junior here in desperate need of advice. Im absolutely ecstatic about attending these west coast summer programs!
However, im coming from a very low-income household: living with a 70 yr old guardian, bascially living off of welfare and gov aid.(also note i live on oahu so air fare is another added burden)
My question is how much can i expect to gain from the scholarships offered at Otis and CCA for precollege? both of which i plan to apply for this summer.
Are these scholarships more merit or financially based?? Will academics play in?(I have a 3.8 gpa and take aps and etc) I have novice experience in art, mostly self taught, regardless i am determined on pursuing art in college.
Also, if anyone has any recommendations for other summer art/development programs? I'm altogether new at this.
Can anyone hellp meeeeeeee? :D</p>
<p>I did RISD pre-college last summer, 2008.</p>
<p>who are you? i was 08 too! i did trad photogs</p>
<p>i would love for you to give me some info about risd as well as pratt as i am researching summer programs for my son who is a junior. i am very nervous and want to make the best choice for him.</p>
<p>Just throwing it out there that I attended SCAD’s summer Rising Star program a few years ago and now I go there so I can answer any questions that anyone might have about it. It was a fantastic experience and I highly recommend it.</p>
<p>Okay, just to putting this out there…if you go to RISD pre-college, do NOT be a drawing major. You will NOT leave with portfolio worthy work. You will finish the program with 15 9 by 12 inch drawings, which you will spend a maximum of three hours on each. They will all be from life. Trust me, RISD/other top art schools don’t want to see 15 drawings of apples and boxes in the middle of a page in your portfolio. </p>
<p>If you’re a student that’s going to be a junior the coming year, then I guess being a drawing major wouldn’t be a bad idea; your skills will develop. However, if you are a senior and wish to build a portfolio, BEING A DRAWING MAJOR IS NOT WORTH THE 7 GRAND. </p>
<p>I’m saying this because I don’t want anybody else to leave RISD pre-college dissapointed. The teacher was great, but did not provide what I, as well as what many other students in the class, wanted out of the RISD pre-college experience: PORTFOLIO WORTHY WORK. Drawing majors get screwed over badly… The best majors to pick for the pre-college program are illustration and painting. You will still get 6 hours of a fundamental drawing class each week anyways, and that class is comprised of much more interesting and challenging assignments than the boring crap that the drawing majors have to deal with. </p>
<p>PLEASE just listen to this post. If you sign up as a drawing major, you have a 50% of getting the same teacher I did. </p>
<p>Once again, you will be drawing apples and boxes in the middle of a f*ing 9 by 12 inch piece of paper. This is great for a beginner, but horrible for somebody that’s well above that level and trying to get into the nations top art schools.</p>
<p>I guess I’m blind, because I don’t see an edit button anywhere… I wanted to say “you have a 50% chance of getting the same teacher I did.”</p>
<p>My daughter went to the 4 week summer program at MICA before her junior year and the 1 week program at SCAD before her sophmore year.</p>
<p>The SCAD program was nice, but not long enough to produce a ton of work. Great for beginners and kids that haven’t stayed away from home a lot yet. At the end of the week, they had a great gallery reception with all the students’ work up and they had done a lot for only 5 days of classes. There was fashion design, jewelry design, and board game design, as well as the usual “majors”. The kids were allowed to wander around Savannah at will, and were housed in a hotel-like dorm downtown.</p>
<p>MICA’s program was much more intense. My daughter majored in painting and had a side elective of fabric art. Everyone does a bit of art history too. They are graded in the end and if successful, receive 2 college credits. The painting program was great and I was very impressed with the student work in this field (and all the fields except for sculpture). They had quite a large gallery opening at the end which coincided with a big Baltimore street festival. They were housed in one big dorm, and weren’t allowed out unless they were in a group of three or more. I believe there were curfews too. I never heard any complaints from my daughter about snooty or over competitive students. It was hard work and late nights, but a strong community feeling too.</p>
<p>She considered the RISD program but it was more money, and didn’t require a portfolio for admission (MICA does). She thought it wouldn’t be as challenging at RISD for that reason.</p>
<p>Both programs seemed to be about 80% female.</p>
<p>Hi - lots of great information here. We are looking for a summer program for D who is a junior. She may want to attend LAC with studio art major as opposed to art school, so a summer program may help her decide. So far we have reviewed Cornell, Sarah Lawrence, RISD, MassArt, Museum School in Boston. I see MICA has a program in Tuscany - anyone been to that? It would cost less than Cornell for a 3 week program. I’m a little concerned that Sarah Lawrence will not be intense enough, and possibly not enough supervision as kids are allowed to have cars on campus.</p>
<p>My kid did Tuscany two years ago the summer before junior year when scholarships were still offered, but it seems that’s not the issue for you.
It was for us big time and if it didn’t happen, he would have gone to Cooper for free.
One of his friend did SLC film last summer but she is like, poster child of SLC and wanted to go there for college already.
I think it is about the match and what water you or your kid want to test the most.
It turned out, though he loved the experience tremendously, art-art school feel was not his liking.
So did humanity last summer, came home with new and better perspective for the future, sort of. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that some programs are only open for junior-senior summer and shouldn’t be missed.
I did not know back then but this scary advice giving lady named Elizabeth Wissner-Gross wrote a book called " What high schools don’t tell you"
There are year to year sample master plans in it, though visual art is not the author’s expertise and informations are spotty but gives you some idea (and big creep, should everyone do this kinda thing? I thought I was the only nuts)</p>
<p>In the end, it is up to the kid, not us parents, to make the most of anything.
Does she want to know how it is to do art in LAC setting?
Boot camp studio course at selective art school?
Easy class load, nice field trips and dorm party, movie night?
Deluxe summer seminar at brand name school that the said author does not recommend?
You still got about month or two to research, far as I know, almost all schools/programs that worthy are mentioned somewhere in this forum.
Good luck!</p>
<p>Bears and Dogs,
I can’t say money is not an issue - we plan to apply for financial aid, but I’m prepared to shell out the money for something worthwhile. The longer programs are out because we don’t want D to lose her great part-time job, and those programs are the most expensive. Since we live about 1 hour west of Boston, the Boston programs could work because she could commute and still work 1-2 nights a week (possibly just commuting on those nights).
The program she attends should allow her to improve her drawing and painting skills and techniques and add to her portfolio.
What was your son’s experience in Tuscany in terms of advancing his art and adding to his portfolio?
SLC - looks like a good choice for someone interested in film. But not so much for art.</p>
<p>Now it’s bit more clear what you are looking for.
I will try to answer but it is my biased view and he does not do CC. There was a poster named sirensong, did Tuscany last year and posted few, about same experience technical instruction wise.
Portfolio building was not his aim since he went to magnet HS and did other classes year around.
The instruction was open ended and lax, pretty much up to the kids.
He took daily siestas, painted only few pieces but enjoyed the process and found that he really likes to paint his own way and does not have to please anyone with his work but himself, and that the only reason he should paint. (read; there are so much more well informed advanced elite seniors from best art HSs around the country, it was bit of out of place for him who thought was a big fish in smallish pond)
He realized (or so I think he did ) trying to be on par with them in technic, passion, jargons and attitude wise is too much a job and not what he wanted to do next year or so before he decides what to do with his life. In other words, those kids are clearly selective art schools bound already; validated, recruited, scholarship guaranteed won awards at the point of the summer before their senior year, and gosh they were good.
Some kids did went there for the pure experience’s sake, that’s totally different story. I say he was about half that.</p>
<p>His painting did change a lot after Tuscany, I can not tell for sure since he had the best teacher at HS for the junior year and really started using oils in the class first time (Tuscany was acrylics) he did some really good pieces that even received well by more conventional school reps and judges.
He says he found love of painting in Tuscany. I suspect this teacher pulled out something he did indeed learned in the sun and shades, flowers, trees, fruits, air, local folks and the food and put them together, materialized it somehow. His colors started to dance.
Was it worth it? totally.<br>
Would I have shelled out the entire cost at the point? big NO.
Would I have tried if I knew the outcome? Yes, but I’d been totally broke or in debt.</p>
<p>It is hard to draw lines. We want to give everything we could money, time wise to help them but if kids ‘have’ it or want it badly enough, they’d find the way.
I learned not to beat myself up because the goal is not some college acceptance or free tuition. It is a marathon called your kid’s own life. And only they could define themselves as the winner.
The best painter in his HS wait tables at a restaurant to buy art supplies and the sneakers ( well, they are the necessity as much as food, I guess), attends local The Art students league classes with scholarships in his spare time.
If I were his mom, I’d be hunting awards, grants, sleep away pre colleges, paying for his sneakers to free up his time to make art.
The kid gets good grades, do sports, goes out on dates, is composed and knows who he is as much as those high flying kids in Tuscany but without the helicopter, and I bet that some of those Tuscany kids found the way to fly pretty much by themselves.</p>
<p>hey im actually looking into doing the pre college program at both of those schools. im into fashion and i heard the program at pratt isnt taken so seriously. id love to hear about your experiences.</p>
<p>Can anyone provide info on the summer art programs at Ecole des Beaux Arts in Paris (prestigious art school), especially the quality of teachers, seriousness of students, opportunity to produce portfolio-worthy work, suitability for a teen who speaks French and needs minimal support for housing, etc.? We want to know if the summer program, like the university-program, is a serious program or just a money-maker for tourists. They offer week-long courses in several genres for adults & teens as young as 16. [Ensba</a> : Pedagogie / Other Studies](<a href=“http://www.ensba.fr/pedagogie/autres_formationsEnglish.htm#adultes]Ensba”>http://www.ensba.fr/pedagogie/autres_formationsEnglish.htm#adultes)</p>
<p>@bolton, someone mentioned that the summer program at New Hampshire Institute of Art (sp?) is both good and affordable. It’s also pretty close to you. Search around on this forum for the info.</p>
<p>My D did Mica’s summer program in Baltimore. It was the summer before junior year so although it was quite rigorous, she didn’t use any pieces for her final portfolio since she made more after that. It was quite a jumping-off point for her as well in terms of technique and thinking. She spent about a month at home afterwards moaning that she wanted to go back! They were quite safety conscious as well. </p>
<p>Look for hidden costs in all these programs too. D was on the verge of applying to one when we realized that the housing costs didn’t include food at all! </p>
<p>Some programs require portfolios in the application, some don’t. It’s easy to assume the ones who require portfolios would be more rigorous but it’s probably not that simple. I know there was a rumor at Mica that they grouped kids according to their portfolios.</p>
<p>^^^ did I say all that? gawk. how pretentious. wordy. shameless. (go hide in the cave/den/doghouse with the tail in between legs)</p>
<p>awww Paris. dream. I had friend’s friend did some class there Beaux arts, pretty much wasted money, thou she had pile of them to begin with.
becoming legit student and taking classes are two very different thing, is what I learned. I mean Duchamp and Cartier-Bresson couldn’t get in, like “God couldn’t get in Princeton(?)”
it’s long long time ago (even for us, let alone Duchamp), don’t know how it is now.</p>
<p>MICA Tuscany is an excellent opportunity if:</p>
<p>1) You have the money (many people there are rolling in it) or get a good scholarship
2) You want an “artistic experience,” and maybe a piece or two for your portfolio
3) You want to go to Tuscany</p>
<p>I would not do it if:</p>
<p>1) It’s even close to a financial stretch
2) You really want to gain significant technical experience
3) You’re just there for your portfolio</p>
<p>source: Sirensong
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/summer-programs/763443-summer-pre-college-art-programs-2.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/summer-programs/763443-summer-pre-college-art-programs-2.html</a></p>
<p>@Bolton - My D attended New Hampshire Institute of Art’s summer program when she was a junior. She loved it and came away with several great portfolio pieces. She got a $500 scholarship, based on her HS art teachers recommendation, and I don’t think a portfolio was involved, I really can’t remember. After completion, she received a $5000 scholarship for the school had she decided to attend. She ultimately did not choose NHIA, but when combined with additional scholarship $$ she had from them, it was definitely the most affordable.</p>