Pre-Health Weed out Courses / Rank Them

<p>Random comment at a random time of the night…
Just finished some Chem 2 with Horvath and LET EVERYBODY BE WARNED
The man is brilliant, a great lecturer (pretty engaging), and really knows his material…but
he expects a lot out of you.
Prepare to work your butt off. So for those folks who has gen chem without Horvath…sure…it’s tolerable. With him it’s going to be a challenge. Good luck!</p>

<p>Vertigo, did you have him for 2046 or 2045? </p>

<p>If i were to AP out of 2045 and start my first semester with 2046, what would i have to take my second semester (or any semester after) to fulfill my 1 year Chem requirement as a pre-med?</p>

<p>Vertigo,
When do you actually get to know what teacher you get for Chemistry? Because my kid only knows he has Horvath for the LAB, which he teaches every lab. The teacher for the actual class is blank.</p>

<p>Horvath is pretty beastly, Organic can be quite difficult depending on the teacher, but I found physics to be VERY HARD at UF, more so than organic. I only say this because the professors who teach the classical physics are horrendous lecturers who the majority of the time do not speak good English, are deathly old, or just flat out can’t lecture well (mind you physics is difficult regardless who teaches, but it helps to have someone “clearly” explain concepts and not go off on stupid tangents, thus making lecture attendance a complete waste of time) leaving you to make best friends with your T.A. (who may or may not speak good English) or shelling out extra cash and time to go get a private tutor or utilize tutoringzone (which is a lifesaver for physics btw).</p>

<p>Sorry if this sounds like a UF pre-med physics rant, but it is haha.</p>

<p>I have him for 2046. I had Gower for 2045, did barely any work (and Chem/Math isn’t my thing), and I got an A-minus easily. 2046 is where things get real (especially with Horvath), but he’s a great teacher, and if you’re up to the challenge…do it :slight_smile: !
@readalotmom - I’m taking the summer term, but typically they don’t post chem teachers up until about the first week of classes (drop/add and all that) from my experience.
@Zap - that fulfills your pre-med reqs, but you would need to take Orgo 1 with lab if you are pre-health/science major.
Then Orgo 2 (w/ lab)
Then you’d be done with the chem for pre-health, to my understanding (and technically, you could stop at Orgo 1 for the M/PCAT/DAT, but everybody who’s pre-health goes on to take Orgo 2…or the people who are serious do anyhow)</p>

<p>Also, @readalotmom, he doesn’t teach any labs, he just writes the lab manuals. He hasn’t taught 2045 in a while and I don’t know if he will start up with that any time soon. He likes Chem 2 and upper-division lab courses from my understanding.
The display from last sem of teachers was:
Mitchell
Gower
(Random one - could be something like Vala or Williams)
Young (teaches 2045 occasionally…usually upper division chem courses are her thing but…AVOID AT ALL COSTS. Her quizzes…and each professor makes his/her own quizzes… are nearly impossible to do well on from what I found). However, if you’re a chem/math whiz go for it, nothing’s impossible. I’ve just learned which battles to pick and which ones not to (esp with a pre-health track because it’s essential to keep that GPA up). The only reason I’m taking Horvath for 46 is because I’m a little more experienced now with studying/being efficient.</p>

<p>ZapadniyRus, you should meet the basic requirement of 1 year of general chemistry lecture/lab if you plan to apply to allopathic medical schools in this country. It is NOT recommended to use AP credit to replace part of the pre-reqs, ESPECIALLY general chemistry. A large ( and growing ) number of medical schools throughout the nation do not accept it.</p>

<p>Some students will retake the class they received AP credit in. But it is almost universally advised to preferably take an upper level chemistry course in addition to your general chemistry credits if you are applying AP credit. </p>

<p>Common options offered through UF’s Chemistry department:</p>

<p>CHM3610 Inorganic Chemistry (pre-req is the organic sequence)
CHM3120 Analytical Chemistry (pre-req is General Chemistry II)</p>

<p>Physical Chemistry would also be acceptable (although it is hard and requires math pre-reqs)</p>

<p>Thanks mystifire, I was a bit confused after reading Vertigo’s response… I thought i would have to take a higher level Chem class if i AP’d out of 2046.</p>

<p>Bumping!!!</p>

<p>Anyone have any experience with Mitchell for CHM 2045/L, or Acosta/Qui for PHY 2049/L?</p>

<p>Z–My S has the same Fall teachers for you for PHY2049 and Lab , (section 4296) for lecture as a Sophmore. He took PHY2048 this past spring and got a B. He had Mitchell for Chem 2045 and liked him. He is a pretty fair guy, and doesn’t put you to sleep in Lecture. Don’t miss any lectures, he says, and always go over the practice tests before each test. ( He said he liked to do that with a few friends) The tests are quite difficult. S ended up with a B grade.</p>

<p>Awesome… Thanks for responding jankrav</p>

<p>I have section 4596 for PHY 2049. From the comments I’ve read on ratemyprofessors, Acosta seems to be better of the 2049 professors. The Chem tests aren’t multiple choice are they?</p>

<p>They were hesitant in letting me sign up for Chem/Physics/Calc during preview, but I’ve been reading ahead and doing problem sets, so hopefully I’ll be alright</p>

<p>Z—Agreed…Acosta looks good. S got all A’s in all classes Freshman year (Mech Eng.major) except CHM2045 and PHY2048, so be forewarned that they are weedout classes. Don’t miss any lectures—that is the key. Make a friend or two in lectures and ask them if you could borrow notes if you are ever sick/skip, and tell them you will do the same for them. Yes, CHM2045 tests are pretty much multiple choice for mitchell. Here is an example:<a href=“Academic Resources – College of Liberal Arts & Sciences”>Academic Resources – College of Liberal Arts & Sciences;
You can google search and sometimes find old exams for some profs/classes.
Teaching Center in the back of Broward Hall is good and free for CHM, PHY, and MAC/Calc. help and test review sessions. <a href=“Academic Resources – College of Liberal Arts & Sciences”>Academic Resources – College of Liberal Arts & Sciences;

<p>Also, Check out Tutoring Zone (TZ) for their CHM/PHY/Calc exam review sessions on Facebook. Their test reviews are great.It costs a bit ($20 or so for major tests), but it is really comprehensive and my S laughed his butt off during the 2-3 hours or so for the PHY2048 final a few months ago. He said it was so worth it.</p>

<p>S took CHM2045 and MAC2311 Fall 2010; MAC2312 and PHY2048 Spring 2011. Good luck on your CHM,MAC, PHYS all at once! Sounds like you are up for the task. My S got an F on one of the PHY2048 tests and one of the CHM2045 quizzes and still ended up with B’s in both classes. Just do good on the homework, quizzes, etc. He studied hard for all of the tests, but some were really tricky! Good luck! P>S…If you don’t like the times of your classes, just keep checking ISIS every day…S just found a later PHY2049L lab today…(didn’t want it period 1).</p>