<p>I've heard that the pre-law/pre-business/general advising at Columbia's not that great. What are you experiences with it in terms of how helpful they are and what they do? Also, does anyone know how easy/hard it is to find an internship during the summer and if being in NYC gives you an advantage?</p>
<p>I heard that people from CC/SEAS with GPA of ~1.8 got into Columbia MBA. I think
Columbia MBA guarantees admission for CC/SEAS graduates…</p>
<p>I also found out that at Yale Law, about 33 Columbia CC/SEAS graduates entered…
which is about the same as Stanford and much better than Princeton (24 entered),
Dartmouh(15), UPenn(5), Brown(10), Cornell(9) etc… The only schools doing better than Columbia is Harvard & Yale…</p>
<p>^ ■■■■■. No idea where above poster got information; most of it is absurdly wrong. HYPS place far better at Yale than Columbia, a few other schools place slightly better. And I would argue that this placement has little to do with the individual schools themselves and far more to do with the quality of the students coming from these schools.</p>
<p>As for the OP’s question: yeah, advising is horrible. I saw a pre-law advisor my sophomore year and I actually had to educate her on a few points. Fortunately, you don’t need an adviser. Law school admissions is pretty simple. Business-track is fairly transparent too.</p>
<p>Here is hte link:</p>
<p>[Law</a> School Students](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html]Law”>http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html)</p>
<p>Columbia is far ahead of Dartmouth, Princeton, UPenn, Cornell…etc…</p>
<p>Ah, okay. I was paraphrasing an old list. But the fluctuations only buttress the larger point–quality of student body (along with self-selection), which is correlated but not rigidly attached to any individual school, is what really drives matriculation at YLS.</p>
<p>Don’t forget that Columbia CC/SEAS is also smallest Ivy </p>
<p>Harvard entering class has 400 more students than Columbia.
Yale entering class is 300 bigger<br>
and UPenn and Cornell are about twice as big as CC/SEAS</p>
<p>i thought dartmouth and princeton were smaller. hmmm</p>
<p>^^ Ya, i thought Princeton was the smallest?</p>
<p>Yeah, Columbia number includes CC/SEAS/ and Barnard…so that’s about 7,000 students vs. 4500 at Dartmouth and Princeton. Also no chance Columbia alums get into CBS automatically. I personally know more than a few rejected candidates.</p>
<p>Columbia does not include Barnard… Barnard is its own college.</p>
<p>None of what zzgirl says is grounded in reality. 1.8 GPA getting into CBS, don’t you need a 2.0 to graduate? CBS takes in the best future business leaders they can find. These tend to have GPAs of 3.1-3.7+. If CBS did take in someone with a 1.8 (which I highly highly doubt they did) then it would have been because that person ran a successful business or showed some amazing prowess. </p>
<p>CC/SEAS does not constitute the smallest ivy; Princeton, Yale and Dartmouth are all smaller.</p>
<p>Pre-law and Pre-business advising is fine. There isn’t too much to advise, just get a high gpa / lsat for law school. For finance get a high gpa, get to leadership positions in clubs, show some interest in finance by taking finance classes and get internships. They can guide you to finding internships. It isn’t rocket science.</p>
<p>Ok my mistake. Dartmouth is a little smaller than Columbia …
Columbia is 2nd smallest.
Barnard is NOT part of Columbia…</p>
<p>[Ivy</a> League- Undergraduate](<a href=“http://ivyleaguesuccess.com/undergraduate_schools.html]Ivy”>http://ivyleaguesuccess.com/undergraduate_schools.html)</p>
<p>wow I did not know that Cornell has 13,523 undergrad … Upenn is almost 10,000 UG</p>
<p>^wrong, that was only columbia college seas is another 1300, so your figures are off, and seas is part of Columbia undergrad.</p>
<p>Look at the Yale figures. Barnard is included, as is GS (note : no barnard college on the yale list). All schools report “columbis university” overall. So the 30 people is actually much more inline with Dartmouth and Princeton. If you add in SEAS/CC/Barnard/and GS you are talking of upwards of 8500 students.</p>
<p>You have to look at the numbers behind the numbers.</p>
<p>Look again, There is Barnard … Barnard is separate 2 from Barnard…</p>
<p>Harvard also include Harvard Extension school ( about 10000 students)…</p>
<p>Ummmm…did you look at the Yale list? Barnard is included with the 30 people from columbia (i.e. its not listed seperately).</p>
<p>yo I looked at the Yale Law bulletin link … and Barnard has separate entry<br>
2 students from Barnard You can not see that ???</p>
<p>^slipper sometimes has a “thing” against Columbia, as do others. Many folks on this website have “things.” It’s all good!</p>
<p>Again, the ratio of a college’s student body size to # of matriculants at YLS is misleading. Prestige of undergrad institution is basically a non-issue when it comes to LS admissions.</p>
<p>qmos! Are you serious??? “Bard” and Barnard are not the same school. Bard is a small LAC in the Catskills ([Bard</a> College](<a href=“http://www.bard.edu%5DBard”>http://www.bard.edu)). All Columbia university schools are listed in the 30 people, so its about 8500 students.</p>