<p>Does anyone know the current median Columbia GPA? How bad (or good I guess) is grade inflation at Columbia compared to other Ivies? I was checking on gradeinflation.com... and surprisingly CC GPA is very much in line with Princeton's GPA though GPA openly admits to capping off the # of A's in a class to 35%. I really really hope Columbia doesn't adhere to this policy.</p>
<p>And can anyone comment on how well Columbia helps you through the Law School application process and how Columbia places at Law schools? I haven't been able to find any facts or figure with Google =/ with the exception of stats for HLS. Columbia has 46 alumni attending--- in line with Brown and Duke but Stanford, and Yale have significantly more students (Yale is 116). Yale students are just stronger or is there a bias here? Anecdotal experience counts =)! I know it's really really early... but as a goal that'll motivate me (even if I fail I worked hard right?), I hope to go to HYS for Law school ;)!</p>
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<p>There's no cap at CU.</p>
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<p>You don't really need any help. It's not like med school where the school has to sponsor you and write you a rec. Just get good grades, take the LSAT, get a couple recs, and apply.</p>
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haven't been able to find any facts or figure with Google =/ with the exception of stats for HLS. Columbia has 46 alumni attending--- in line with Brown and Duke but Stanford, and Yale have significantly more students (Yale is 116). Yale students are just stronger or is there a bias here?
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<p>Maybe Yale undergraduates disproportionately choose HLS over YLS because they don't want 3 more years of New Haven. That's the most likely explanation.</p>
<p>agreed. and btw, i asked this question last year when comparing stern vs. columbia college and someone said the median gpa was a 3.2 at columbia.</p>
<p>Our median LSAT is 163, which is in the top five. For comparison's sake, Harvard's is 166, Yale/Princeton are (I think) ~165, and we're tied with (maybe?) Brown and Duke (or maybe Stanford). </p>
<p>Anyway, law schools compare grades among schools based on those schools' median LSAT, so having a median LSAT so high is very favorable for Columbia students.</p>
<p>For the record, I'm a CC senior accepted to HLS (and waiting on YLS).</p>
<p>I've been writing a post-graduation guide for Columbia students (in law and other fields) here:
<a href="http://wikicu.com/Post-graduation%5B/url%5D">http://wikicu.com/Post-graduation</a></p>
<p>so are you absentminded or pacman? ;)</p>
<p>the median gpa at the college is about a 3.3, while i think seas is slightly below. i want to say those numbers came from a spec article of a few years ago. i can't speak for gs or barnard (though i've only <em>heard</em> that gs is a bit higher).</p>
<p>Heh, my identity can never be revealed...</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see those numbers broken down. I remember reading in an old edition of the B&W that the Class of 2006 had an absurd percentage of 4.0s...</p>
<p>Does this lack of grade inflation make Columbia students with lower gpas than comparable applicants have significant disadvantages in grad school admissions? I mean, do you still need a 4.0 to get into a top program, or will they be more lenient and take into account the school?</p>
<p>First, I would definitely not say there's a lack of grade inflation at Columbia.</p>
<p>Second, admissions officers at elite schools see enough applications from Columbia to know roughly what a Columbia grade is worth. </p>
<p>Finally, Columbia's high median LSAT mitigates such concerns in any case, since it "weights" the average grade performance of Columbians vs. those at comparable schools differently.</p>
<p>There are A+s 4.333 at Columbia, and students have some of the highest GPAs around...</p>
<p>A+ are usually limiting to only maths and science or engineering classes.</p>
<p>It doesn't mean that its easy to get. I mean, students who get 98% for their final grades should be entitled to be rewarded for their hard work. I think its great!</p>
<p>What's a respectable GPA at CC? I mean what would be the equivalent of a 4.0 uw GPA at HS with the toughest workload when it comes to difficulty? 3.6-3.7? Also, is a 4.0 pretty much impossible?</p>
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<p>Correct. The presence of the A+ raises the whole grading scale in many classes. It's not just an extraordinary grade reserved for rare circumstances. Teachers can give more A's because they can give A+'s, give A's to the people who would otherwise get A-'s, etc.</p>
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<p>Not at Columbia. You can get A+'s in most classes.</p>
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<p>It's easy to get an A+ in some classes. What do you mean "98% for their final grades"? In my physics class, I think a 70% got you an A+.</p>
<p>Most people I know who aren't embarrassed to tell me their GPAs are in the 3.5-3.9 range, if that helps. These are usually social science and humanities students, though.</p>
<p>A 4.0 is hardly impossible, but I think most who have them are in majors that allow for the accumulation of lots of A+s.</p>
<p>I've actually received three A+s, in two history classes and in Music Hum, but receiving that many is highly unorthodox for non math/science people.</p>
<p>I think it depends on your high school. A 4.0 at a public suburban high school will probably translate into a 3.6+ at Columbia (again... it really depends on difficulty of ur hs). But a 4.0uw at sty, hunter, exeter, or one of the "Public Elites" listed by Newsweek (go bergen academies!) will likely translate into a 3.8+ i'm guessing. But a 4.0 at a magnet hs =/= a 4.0 at SuburbiaHigh. ANd i heard it really depends on your major too...</p>
<p>Ok let's get down to it. I'm thinking about double-majoring in Eng and Econ, so what do you think are my chances? I know it's hard to judge, considering that you don't know me, so here's a little info: I'm about to graduate with a 1.0 Abitur, which is IMO comparable to a 4.0 uw GPA with all APs. I tend to be good in languages and maths. I've never taken Bio or Chem, though. Also, I'm prob not the most talented music theory guy. How hard do you think would it be to get a 4.0 at CC?
And for the record: I'm not a nerd, but bored and hungry for information, ^^</p>
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<p>Or people who take electives that are known for giving A+'s. I agree that a 4.0 isn't extraordinary given the A+; every A+ balances out an A-.</p>
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<p>I got two A+'s: in a biology elective class and in Yiddish. Yiddish was a total joke and I think everyone got A+'s.</p>
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<p>If you're willing to work fairly diligently, it's not that hard to get at least a 3.8-3.9. There are also other variables, like whether you gradegrub, or strategically pick classes to maximize your grades, or effectively use the drop.</p>
<p>Pearfire--- are you in the college or SEAS? I thought you couldn't do a major at the other school (econ-CC + Engineering-Fu)? Or can you...?</p>
<p>Oh sry, Eng stands for English, ^^... Thanks guys, I got a pretty good picture now. Also, I'll probably get plenty of credits for my Abitur. A friend of mine who goes to Harvard said he got enough credits for his Abitur to graduate in 3 years. I'll def go for four years, though. I'll either take an easy courseload or take a semester off to travel or intern or study at Cambridge if I get into that program.</p>
<p>@ columbia2002</p>
<p>yes i'm aware of that, I do go to Columbia.</p>
<p>I dunno how you manage to get a A+ with 70% final grade.... =S perhaps with a curve? a very generous CURVE?</p>
<p>well there are classes that just don't offer A+, I know several lit-hum teachers that just refuse to give out them, I'm sure there are quite a few more classes that are the same.</p>