<p>I decided to apply for pre-med now.
and i just took sat test yesterday
im starting to making a list of colleges im applying
well first im gonna look some colleges in big ten (except Northwestern and ohio state) and case western, just because with my current score i dont have much chance in other ivy or ivishy school and private schools are expensive</p>
<p>of course Im gonna apply to some other colleges
Can you recommend me some good pre-med schools in big ten and any other schools(private? good, Public? better)? I will appreciate if you could tell me if the schools you listed can be tough for me or can be safe and so on.</p>
<p>im international from S. Korea, i've been going to high school in US for about 3 years.
My gpa is 3.93, class rank 2/27, no AP(our school doesnt offer) in SAT i took yesterday im pretty certain i got about 600V 800M 650W</p>
<p>My current best is Oct V570 M800 W530(essay 5)
Nov Math790 Chem640 Bio550
Toefl 105 (highest score out of 2)</p>
<p>Well i know i have better chance in engineering, due to good Math but bad bad bad science..
but i really want to go to medical school.
just give me an idea... </p>
<p>Well you should look into some of the liberal arts colleges. Those are particularly good in getting their students into good medical colleges. You could apply to Franklin and Marshal, Macalester, Connecticut College, Austin and perhaps some other schools that you like.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that getting into medical school in the US (for MD) is EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE (more so than intels who need fin aid for undergrad) and the admission rate is around 1%. Aid is virtually impossible, although you could get a loan if you have a credit worthy cosigner. You could ofcourse apply to some good schools in the carribbean (no aid there either, but admission is much easier) and then come back to US if u are good enough.</p>
<p>As for engineering, I suggest that you go as pre-med for engineering (perhaps chemical or material science?) but that is only if you go to a place like NU or some other good private university that integrate the pre-med thing very well into their curriculum. In public schools, you usually get a deflated/low GPA and less pre-med assistance so getting in to med school with an engineering degree becomes very very hard.</p>
<p>Its always best that u plan out your next 8 (or 4) years well in advance.</p>
<p>hey waleedk87, wuts the difference between liber arts colleges and CC...
also wut is pre-med for engineering....?
i do not know how yet, but i want to be a heart surgeon
please explain to me easy so i can understand</p>
<p>Our GPA,SAT1,Toefl, Number of years in States are virtually the same!!! Even our majors are almost identical. I m thinking about biochem or chem e. WOW</p>
<p>Dude there is a BIG difference between a LAC and a CC. If you REALLY want to go on to med school, I highly recommend a LAC. Usually the good lac's (swarth, amherst, williams, etc..) send +90% of their medical applicants to medical schools. However, the lac's med applicant pool is weeded out by premed advisors so I wouldnt trust entirely on that figure.</p>
<p>You can attend an engineering school and still take the pre-med course. If you want to be a heart surgeon, I dont think there is any neccessity for you to attend an engineering school... Maybe you can major in biochemistry or whatever interests you, whilst completing your desired pre-med course.</p>
<p>If you are willing to go on to medical school you really really have you focus on grade inflation of the colleges you'd like to attend. Medical schools are bascially focused on the GPA and MCAT scores. Thus, if you have a high GPA, you have a good chance of getting in. Some people have said in the medical board of cc, that it is much easier to go to an average-good state school where there is major grade inflation, then going on to apply to med school.</p>
<p>You really have to think carefully about this.. Like waleed has said, med school acceptance rate is very very VERY small. You have to outsmart not only the international aplicant pool, but the WHOLE pool. It's also really hard to get internship/residency in the states for internationals because the company's do not like spending time and money to get work visas for intels. It's harsh I know.
Maybe you should think about going on to a medical school in Korea. You could complete a good undergraduate degree from a prestigeous, selective undergraduate school, then transfer on to Seoul national medical school. And you and I both know that if you graduate from SNU, you'll have a nice life..:)</p>
<p>If you are not sure about entering the medical field, you should apply to engineering schools as most of the times, it's easier to transfer from School of engineering to College of arts and sciences, and it's usually difficult to transfer the other way around. So if you change your mind you could transfer.
Hope that helps a bit.</p>
<p>NoFX thanx for reply
but i have some more questions
so LAC is like university but without graduate program(most of time), right?
since LAC is much smaller than Universities, so it is more likely that i will know professors personally, which will be beneficial when i go to medical school because of strong recommendation, am i right so far?</p>
<p>Also do u think i have chane in those LAC, u and waleedk mentioned?
i just looked some colleges in collegeconfidential and they sound tough to get in.</p>
<p>Unless i have really no choice, i really want to go to medical school in US.
I know i wasnt good at preparing this time but i wont make that mistake again</p>
<p>just out of curiosity, how hard would that be to get in to SNU medical school after graduating from LAC in here like u said...</p>
<p>Yes LACs have no graduate schools. In LACs the classes will be smaller so you will have more opportunities to get to know the profs and get research opportunities. You can also get research at other big universities but I guess the competition for spaces would be less at a smaller school. I guess the strong recs will play part in admission but generally (i stress generally), LACs have a slight grade inflation, which means that your gpa will be higher.</p>
<p>If you go on to the cc medical boards you will see that current medical students emphasise on GPA. GPA is extremely extremely important in getting to med school. Most med students have said that you'd probably have a higher chance of getting into med school from Ohio State with a 3.9gpa, than from MIT with a 3.1gpa.</p>
<p>I am not sure about SNU medical school's acceptance rate for transfers.</p>
<p>And I dont give out chances so maybe leave that to others on this board or better yet, judge for yourself. Yes they are tough to get in and they are also private schools (..you have mentioned in your first post that you dont wish to attend a private school cos private schools are expensive).</p>
<p>And I'm also a prospective freshmn so don't take my words as 100% correct... I was considering med school for many years so all the details that I have provided are just some research and words that I've picked up (so hopefully they're correct and not outdated!).</p>
<p>I am sorry if i am going off topic - but what other colleges (around the world) are good for international students asking for aid? are there any in australia that give good scholarships? U see i'm screwed because in Pakistan u need to give urdu in ur o level and i dont even know how to write an alphabet in urdu! lol</p>
<p>Do medical schools in state universities or any other public universities accept international students as medical students? I heard they do not, but my uncle said he never heard such a thing. Also he wants me to go to universities like universitiy illinois-urbana champagne and u know all those public universities cuz then i can go to medical schools in there after undergraduate program, he said.Which will be the better choice? public university? or LAC?</p>
<p>Also wut are the disadvantages and advantages of having a gap year. Im senior and 18(7/15/88) years old. but i dont have any ap classes cuz our school dont offer any. so im thinking about taking ap tests(self-studying). If i study SAT1 and SAT2 for retake during the gap year, i will have more chances for shcolarships and better schools, like ivies. im not seriously thinking about have a gap year, but im just considering as a possible choice for the worst situation...</p>