<li><p>Berkeley </p></li>
<li><p>UVA </p></li>
<li><p>UCLA </p></li>
<li><p>Michigan </p></li>
<li><p>UCSD </p></li>
<li><p>UNC</p></li>
<li><p>Wisconsin </p></li>
<li><p>W & M</p></li>
<li><p>UF</p></li>
<li><p>UIUC </p></li>
<li><p>Georgia Tech </p></li>
<li><p>Washington</p></li>
</ol>
<p>What's your reasoning?</p>
<ul>
<li><p>Berkeley & UCLA have tremendous application pools, and will continue. Also California's population is growing fast, leading to lower admissions rates.</p></li>
<li><p>UVA has good marketing, but is a mediocre state.</p></li>
<li><p>W & M can't fundraise to save their school.</p></li>
<li><p>UF has a plan, and more money to spend than anybody else.</p></li>
<li><p>Big 10 Schools are going to drop a little over the next decade.</p></li>
</ul>
<p>Also, University of Texas would be ranked between 5 - 10 if they did not have to adhere to mandatory admissions to the Top 10% of graduating Texans. Their Peer Assessment score is very high (4.1 overall), and their graduate programs are outstanding.</p>
<p>"Big 10 Schools are going to drop a little over the next decade."</p>
<p>-Why......</p>
<p>There are actually 2 state laws that keep UT back nationally - the "Top 10%" rule is only the more recent of the two and gets confused with the older law. It is also state law that at least 90% of undergrads be from in-state, and freshman classes are routinely greater than this. It's difficult to develop a more national standing when their hands are tied like this. You are correct that its academic programs are all excellent and it has amazing academic breadth and depth. It can probably also be argued that if it wasn't a southern school (in Texas no less), it would even have a higher PA score than 4.1. I'm sure if UT was a Big 10 school, its peer assessment would be higher.</p>
<p>haha yeah, why the hell would big ten schools decline? i can't wait for this response...</p>
<p>2017 Elite Publics (Top 10):</p>
<ol>
<li> UC Berkeley</li>
<li> UVA</li>
<li> UCLA</li>
<li> Michigan</li>
<li> UCSD</li>
<li> UNC</li>
<li> W&M</li>
<li> Wisconsin</li>
<li> UIUC</li>
</ol>
<h2>10. Washington</h2>
<ol>
<li> Georgia Tech</li>
<li> Texas</li>
</ol>
<p>---------------------------------------------------------------------EDIT</p>
<p>I read the title wrong.</p>
<p>IT WOULD BE HILLARIOUS IF WE WERE RANKING PRIVATES AND PUBLICS. READ AGAIN SMART GUY. WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES, NOT HARVARD, YALE, PRINCETON, ETC. READ BEFORE POSTING! Do you really think i think UCLA is gonna be the 3rd best school overall for undergrad in 2017? No but for publics that is deffiantly a real possibility. UCSD's been top 6 or so before i believe and a year or so ago number 7 for publics. raising two spots on the public list really isnt hillarious or ridiculous, especially for a 40 year old rising school which is within the top 30 in overall national selectivity according to US News and in California. Im not sure if you just didnt read the post or what, but im obvously not saying its top 5 in the nation overall, just for PUBLICS as the post stated. Why would you attack my list when obviously you cant even type properly and didnt even read what we were ranking. Jesus man, dont post if you dont read what your posting on first. HYP, haha what are you talking about, last time i checked they were PRIVATES. Use your brain and read.</p>
<p>I think Washington will be higher.....</p>
<p>Washington is deffiantly on the rise, and Seattle is an incredible location. JCCort's ranking is pretty accurate i think. yet, only time will tell. Washington may very well be ranked even higher than number 10.</p>
<p>I think it will be</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Berkeley</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan</p></li>
<li><p>UVA</p></li>
<li><p>UCLA</p></li>
<li><p>Washington</p></li>
<li><p>UNC</p></li>
<li><p>Wisconsin</p></li>
<li><p>UIUC</p></li>
<li><p>UCSD</p></li>
<li><p>UT</p></li>
</ol>
<p>i think thats way too high for Washington. I dont really see Washington passing up UNC, UCSD, Wisconsin, and W&M falling out of the top 10, although W&M is having some financial problems as of late. the rest looks pretty good to me.</p>
<p>"Use your brain and read." --ucchris</p>
<p>ucchris should use his brain and read...a book on how to spell. "Deffiantly"??</p>
<p>"Big 10 Schools are going to drop a little over the next decade."</p>
<p>-I say this because the Midwest's economy is struggling terribly, and this will trickle down to the Public Universitites. Manufacturing isn't what it used to be. Even with their Top Publics becoming more privatized it won't really matter, because the jobs won't be there.</p>
<hr>
<p>As far as my Prediction: I stand by my original format, with the exception that Washington be moved up to tie for 8th.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Berkeley </p></li>
<li><p>UVA </p></li>
<li><p>UCLA </p></li>
<li><p>Michigan </p></li>
<li><p>UCSD </p></li>
<li><p>UNC</p></li>
<li><p>Wisconsin </p></li>
<li><p>W & M</p></li>
<li><p>UF</p></li>
<li><p>Washington</p></li>
<li><p>UIUC</p></li>
<li><p>Georgia Tech</p></li>
</ol>
<p>JCCort, Michigan is not likely to drop all the way to #4. It is currently one of the top 2 or 3 public universities, and if anything, it will only strengthen its hold. Michigan's economy may be struggling, but Michigan's finances are not. The University's endowment over the last 20 years has grown by 2,200%, twice faster than the second fastest growing university endowment. UVA, the public university with the second fastest growing endowment has seen a 900% growth in endowment in the last 20 years. Just to put it in perspective,:</p>
<p>ENDOWMENT IN 1986
University of Virginia $350,000,000
University of Michigan $250,000,000</p>
<p>ENDOWMENT IN 2006
University of Michigan: $5,650,000,000
University of Virginia: $3,600,000,000</p>
<p>Furthermore, Ann Arbor's economy, which is primarily based on Biotech, IT, Aerspace and general research, is growing nicely and the quality of life in Ann Arbor is hard to beat. </p>
<p>In short, I don't think Michigan is going to decline anytime soon. And I would say the same thing applies to Wisconsin.</p>
<p>why is uiuc ranked so low?the engineering programs are top class</p>
<p>watch uconn fly up</p>
<p>You might think michigan's finances are in trouble because of the problems with auto companies like Ford and GM in Detroit [Thus Michigan's economy], but UMich is actually very independent and could get along fine without support from th estate.</p>