<p>yeah, maybe this post might be more appropriate in the "premed" section, but i have a specific question about premed at rice.</p>
<p>anyone doing premed there? whats it like? more importantly, how do u get in? is it worth it? is rice premed-to-medschool rate high? what does liberal arts have anything to do w/ med? etc, questions like that...</p>
<p>ive read that the premed program at rice is freakishly hard to get into. anyone care to dispel this rumor or is this the harsh cold truth?</p>
<p>wait, nevermind. i got a lot of my questions answered from a previous, older post i found. =)</p>
<p>i do though, have one question about rice premed. first off, i've heard that to get into premed at rice, requires that you apply to rice ED, and that AFTER you get accepted, you have to go to an interview, etc, to see if u qualify for their premed. well, hypothetically speaking, what if they DONT accept you into their premed program? then what? you'll be at rice now, since ED chains you to the school, without the "major" of your choice. isnt that sort of risky, considering that only up to 15 can get into premed at rice, right?</p>
<p>or, have i heard wrong? i hope i did.</p>
<p>Last year, the premedical advising program at Rice boasted a 92 percent acceptance rate of students to medical school.</p>
<p>Only the Rice/Baylor program requires ED/ID. That program is not required for pre-med, only one option. Do a Google on "Pre-Med at Rice".</p>
<p>bandit - you beat me to it!</p>
<p>Rice/Baylor is a combined 8 year BA/MD program with Baylor college of medicine. Basically if you are in the program and you keep a reasonable GPA and fulfill the pre-med requirements, you have a guaranteed acceptance to Baylor college of medicine. This program accepts about 20 students per year to make a class of around 15. Like bandit said, you must apply ED or ID to be considered for this program.</p>
<p>If you are not accepted to Rice/Baylor, no big deal. When you get to rice, you just need to take a few certain classes and the MCATs and then you can apply to med school. There is no need to get accepted into a pre-med program - anyone who wants to an take the classes and the MCAT.</p>
<p>I hope that helped - if you have more questions, post back here, IM or PM me, or send an e-mail!</p>
<p>ok, so basically, the only premed program at rice is this "baylor/rice one", right? so theres no other premed program at rice, which means i'd just have to take a bunch of chem/bio classes and prepare for the mcat on my own time to get into med schoool?</p>
<p>isnt it better to be in a premed program, because the acceptance rate is higher and you're better prepared? because my assumption right now is that in order to be a doc, being in a premed program is a <em>must</em> and that if you just do a bio major, for instance, w/o the premed program and study on your own for mcats, that you'll have a <em>significantly</em> less of a chance of getting into med school.</p>
<p>and also, what is the process and how easy is it to get into the baylor/rice premed program? is there a lot of competition?
...and, if you get rejected from the rice premed program, it means that you were rejected from your choice of major, so you would have to pick another "major" at rice, right (since ED is a binding decision)? isnt that risky? o_O</p>
<p>ahh, sorry for all the questions, but im really interested in going to rice premed now. i live in tx, so i can pay instate tutition and it might be easier for me to get in since im a resident. although, as u know jenskate, from my previous posts, i still have utd premed as my backup, lol.</p>
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<p>I do not think Rice delineates between in-state and out-of-state forms of tuition.</p>
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<p>On the contrary, it might even be harder.</p>
<p>Ok. I think there is some major confusion here.
Normally, when people refer to "premed" they are just referring to the sequence of classes that one should take to prepare for medical school.
"Combined programs" are what you are talking about.
The only combined program at Rice is Rice/Baylor. However, the vast, vast majority of people who go to rice and then to medical school are NOT in Rice/Baylor. Instead, they take the sequence of classes required by medical schools. There is a lot of support for students taking this path, including pre-med advisors, as well as bunches of MCAT review courses (most of these are for an extra fee through kaplan or princeton review).</p>
<p>Many people (incuding me) would say that it's great to be in a combined program. You are NOT better prepared for med school because in reality you are taking the same courses as people not in the program. However, you do have guaranteed acceptance to med school which is nice. However, being in a combined program is NOT a must. VERY FEW doctors were in combined programs. WAY WAY MORE doctors took the normal route of taking the courses and MCATs and then applying to med school. At rice, over 90% of people who go this route go to med school, compared to maybe 99% of those in rice/baylor (i made that 99 number up, but it seems right-ish).</p>
<p>The process for getting into rice baylor is as follows:
Apply to Rice under ED or ID (ID is NON-binding, ED is binding).
Once accepted, you will recieve an application to Rice/Baylor. About 200 people fill out this app each year.
Of those 200, 40 are selected for interviews. The other 160 are rejected from the program.
Of the 40 interviewees, about 20 are offered admission to the program. The other 20 are rejected.
This is a very very competitive program, but someone has to get in, so you might as well try. If you would only want to go to rice if you were in the combined program, you should apply to rice ID. If you choose to apply ED and bind yourself to go to rice, and then are rejected from Rice/Baylor, you can still be pre-med simply by taking the required classes.
No matter what, you cannot "major" in pre-med. Rice, like most schools, does NOT offer a "major" in premed. So you have to major in a different department whether or not you are in Rice/Baylor and then simply take the pre-med requirements in addition to your major.</p>
<p>You mention instate tuition. Since Rice is a private university, tuition is the same for students from out of state as well as texas residents. Baylor does, however, give a lower tuition rate to Texas residents.</p>
<p>You seem confused on what exactly constitutes "premed." Be sure you understand what exactly Rice and UTD are offering before you commit.</p>
<p>oooooohhhhh. thank you nspeds and jenskate. that cleared up a lot of confusion. </p>
<p>i do know though, that at utd, they do have a "premed program" where you do the premed requirements, and then they pretty much hook you up to southwestern medical center in dallas, although i dont know what the rate is for that. but rice's non-premedprogram students to medschool is 90%?!?!?!? thats very high and very attractive. i'm only considering utd right now because of the fact that in the end, all i would have to pay for is med school because my undergrad years would be for free, although, i would have to see what their rate is from premed to med is, because that is the <em>most</em> important factor for me right now. but i'll find out this march, when i go visit utd ( its only 20 min away. =D )</p>
<p>in the case that rice's acceptance rate to med school is higher than utd, i will <em>most likely</em> apply id/ed to rice because id rather stay instate for undergrad/medschool than go out of state. then its still a matter of whether if i quality or not. i know rice is very selective. my grades/sats are good and all, i just dont know about my extracurrculars. ahh, >_<</p>
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<p>Not to doubt the greatness of Rice, but I was wondering if anyone knew what percent of this 90% went to their first choice med school? (jenskate?)</p>
<p>kahuna, you can apply to both anyway, right : )? Rice gives lots of scholarships and stuff that you might get which could cover lots of your undergrad costs, if finances are a sticking point. I think you should definitely definitely go for it. Look at wannabeariceowlgirl. She's not sure she can get in (no one should be), but she knows it's worth it to give it a try :p :)</p>
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<p>I grudgingly agree.</p>
<p>apparently, bandit posted that the rice website says that 72% go to their top choice graduate/professional school. That's pretty awesome. Think about how nice it would be if 72% of your high school class went to their top choice college.</p>
<p>mm, yes, i saw that too : ). That's awesome.</p>
<p>Looking more for the rate that non-rice/baylor people get their first choice med school. My mom says that it must be that most of them go to an 'ah mao ah gou school' (a cat and dog school) -- always the healthy skeptic ;).</p>
<p>Don't have stats for that. I don't even know if rice keeps them. You could call pre-med advising and ask i suppose. In all honesty, just the fact that so many students get into ANY med school is pretty darn good, considering that nationwide, less than half of pre-meds get accepted to ANY school. And no matter where you go to med school, you're a doctor when you finish.</p>
<p>haha mea. i actually understand that. im chinese too. however, the weird thing is, she prefers, no she WANTS, me to go to utd premed because undergrad is free, i get money, and i can live at home, lol.</p>
<p>well, thanks for the advice all. i guess so far my plan is, although its too early to say since im still a junior, 1) apply id to rice, and if that fails, then 2) go to utd premed or maybe 3) go out of state, like northwestern/washington or something. but its most likely, for now, either rice or utd.</p>
<p>Kahuna,</p>
<p>you're applying to utd next year...i actually applied this year and got a full ride. too bad its my safety school, plus i got accepted to rice! the only issue preventing me from going to rice is money. and the other thing is utd is a safety school i actually would want to go to. its funny to hear someone else besides me tell people "i applied to rice, stanford, duke,...and utd." haha. people dont think its a good school since it has UT in front of it, but it actually is. anyway, just letting you know you're not the only one applying to utd as a back up, and good luck.</p>
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<p>Although I think you would find that a nice amount of students from Rice premed DO get into their first choice, usually it's not that important to get into a first choice med school. It's generally difficult to get into med school, anywhere in the US, and it usually doesn't matter where you get your degree from. A large number of medical schools have a strong reputation, and once you get in, you're generally assured a nice job after graduating.</p>
<p>In contrast, it's easy to get into many law schools, so you really do need to get into a top law program to rise above the competition (and even then, it's very difficult).</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>Thanks - that's what I was trying to say, but i wasn't nearly as articulate.</p>
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<p>That is not the most accurate depiction of Law School in terms of jobs. It is fairly easy to get a job upon graduating from any Law School - depending on region - but higher ranked schools offer you higher regional mobility and higher caliber positions. For example, a graduate from UH Law School, which ranks in the 40s, could easily get a job in Houston and Dallas, since there are only two schools of higher rank in Texas. However, it would be nearly impossible for a UH Law School graduate to get a job in Boston, since he/she would be competing against the likes of Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Boston, Michigen, Cornell, and Georgetown Law Schools graduates. Moreover, since most employers have never employed a UH Law School graduate, they will be very hesitant and will likely choose another graduate from one of the aforementioned schools.</p>
<p>If you graduate from Harvard Law School, then you can get a job all across the United States, and you will have plenty of connections. Perhaps the most promising is actually being called to teach at Harvard Law School, becoming a judge, and so forth.</p>
<p>haha coqui. full ride eh? nice. yeah, i know some of my friends who did as well. i heard its reallyreally easy to get one (you only need like a 1300-1400 for a full scholarship?). and yeah, money might be an issue for rice for me as well, although it is cheaper than those other private schools out there. if i dont make rice, and you dont go, maybe ill see you at utd premed next yr. ;)</p>
<p>but even still. riceee!! i hope. again, thanks for the advice all. its been very helpful.</p>