Feeder Schools for Top Med Schools?

<p>Do Rice Univ Pre-Meds Get into Top Medical Schools? (say top 10-20)
(aka - is it a "feeder school" for top med schools?)
Are there any statistics about where Rice premeds are accepted/go?</p>

<p>Im choosing between Rice, Duke, Cornell, and Dartmouth
(I live in TX)</p>

<p>The best place to look for Rice specific information, is Rice pre-health office. Rice tends to place a lot of its pre-meds into Texas medical schools. It probably has a direct correlation to the fact that more than 40% of their freshman classes tend to be Texans.</p>

<p>Off all your choices, Cornell is a probably the toughest place to maintain a high GPA at. As you will find out, a high GPA is one of the key ingredients in the secret sauce called medical schools admissions. </p>

<p>However, all your choices are good and they will all prepare you well for medical schools. Congratulations and good luck!</p>

<p>Do rice pre meds get into top schools? Yes. Is it a “feeder” school? Depends on your definition. The process of going from college to med isn’t perfectly analogous to the one from high school to college because unlike high school, college student bodies are not as largely determined by birthplace or income</p>

<p>Do pre-meds from ANY UG get into top 20? The answer is Yes. So, why Rice would be an exception?</p>

<p>even if the stats exist, they will be biased towards non-elite med schools do to the simple fact of instate tuition. Approx. half of Rice’s students are instate and thus, can choose an instate med option over say, paying huge bucks to attend UChicago med.</p>

<p>I don’t know about ANY to be honest Miami, but certainly ANY UG ranked in the top 100 or 150.</p>

<p>Rice won’t be a limiting factor in applying to any med school.</p>

<p>"I don’t know about ANY to be honest Miami, but certainly ANY UG ranked in the top 100 or 150. "

  • I definitely know many that are well below and still send plenty of kids to top Med. Schools and eventually to top residencies of their choice. Definitely up to the student.</p>

<p>But going back to Rice. I am 100% sure about Rice as all others pointed out.</p>

<p>ok, maybe I’m wrong about exactly where the cutoff is, but there are 4,000 undergraduate institutions and I guarantee that at some point before #4,000 the doors are simply closed to the top medical schools.</p>

<p>^ it is not even worth investigating. Rice is definitely OK.</p>

<p>I never meant to imply that rice was in any way close to this threshold.</p>

<p>I did mean to imply that when some future reader stumbles on this forum because they are thinking about going to some random on-line college or something to recognize that while there are hundreds of schools that can easily place you into a top medical school, that is not the same as saying “ANY” school.</p>

<p>There is NOBODY out there who are making life changing decisions based on CC posts. If we restrict the free flow of information based primarily on personal experiences, then what is a point of CC? Everybody can read various blogs, go to web sites, collect various statistics…etc. Sharing personal experiences are much more valuable here than mentionning data collected somewhere else on internet. I assume that all college applicants own computers andlearned how to use effectively by now. If this is not the case, they might find it very difficult dealing with academics in college these days. Frankly that would be impossible.</p>

<p>^Miami, I don’t know if we’re posting on the same forum, but I see posts on here on a daily basis that indicate many students do not do the things you say and do in fact lack the skills you describe.</p>

<p>I am not saying anyone will make a life decision based on it but someone will start a thread with “So I’ve read on here that there is no difference between going to Harvard and University of Phoenix…” if you don’t clarify that by “ANY” you mean “ANY decent, reputable institution” which unfortunately is not a description of all 4,000 undergraduate institutions.</p>

<p>Any decent, respected undergrad is good enough for the better ranked med schools.</p>

<p>However, I think the point needs to be made that unless the premed student is aiming for academic medicine, attending a top 10 or so med school is NOT important. </p>

<p>Med school education and rankings should not be viewed as they are for undergrad schools. ALL US MD schools are very good. None are subpar. Someone who only gets accepted to an unranked or lower-ranked med school should NOT be disappointed. In the end, he’ll have his MD degree and that’s what matters. </p>

<p>This is idea of “feeder schools” can be misleading. it suggests almost a “free pass”. NO, not even close. Med schools rejects students who attended their OWN undergrads.</p>

<p>It’s difficult to assess what the best ug school is for a premed wanna be. Some schools that have a 100% acceptance or close to it for med school acceptance have committee systems in place so that you can’t really apply to med school if you are not accepted by the school committee as references come from there and it is practically a death knell for getting accepted if you try to do it alone. The committees pre screen the applicants, so how impressive that 100% rate is under those circumstance is a bit sketchy, IMO. </p>

<p>I went to such a UG school, and I can tell you that a lot of kids who were very smart kids, great students, did not survive the premed gauntlet there when I am pretty sure they could have at a smaller, less competitive, more nurturing college. The word “cut throat” was pretty much how the premeds were described there. Now if you are at the top of the top at such a school, that’s one thing. BUt if you are not, and you are truly dedicated to becoming a doctor, going to a small school where the premed majors are all given the support to have the optimum chance of med school acceptance, might be a better way to go, not a school that is trying to cull the herd. When you see how many kids start out premed and how many stay that way at some of these schools, you can get a better idea of what the chances are of getting into med school. My UG was as “feeder” as they come, and having watched many go through the app process, I can tell you that there was no auto mechanism feeding them into an acceptance. I doubt Rice is any different. Rice is a fine school with very talented students and most all of them are intellectually capable of gaining med school acceptance. It’s no huge achievement getting any of that star studded student body to that level.</p>

<p>OP - There are Texas residents who attend top 20 schools and choose to come back to Texas for medical school because 1. It is most inexpensive and 2. 90%+ seats in Texas are given to residents. Texas has UT Southwest and Baylor ranked around 20.</p>

<p>You can go to any of the above schools and still retain your residency and make it back to a texas med school if you do well enough.</p>

<p>As for getting into a highly ranked medical school, it again depends on how well you do in your undergrad. I have seen Rice grads get into pretty much any medical school in the nation but I am sure that can be said of any of the schools on your current list. It comes down to your undergrad achievements.</p>

<p>Let’s not ignore the value of Rice’s location for a pre-med. Could not be better.</p>

<p>Still alive and kicking, Curmudgeon. Good to hear from you. What makes Rice the absolute best location for a pre med? With the stats that those kids sport upon entry, other than those who decide they don’t want to go into the field, 100% of those frosh Premeddies should be applying to med school. Not happening, however.</p>

<p>Well, Rice has their own outstanding resources. And you can throw a rock and hit two med schools. Not to mention a leading cancer hospital/research center and well…the Texas Medical Center itself. Opps galore.</p>

<p>I assume Curmudgeon is alluding to the fact that Rice has a close proximity to 3 medical schools(Baylor, UT-Houston and Medical branch-Galveston). For a Texas resident, having ~1/2 of the state’s medical schools nearby not only cuts expenses for interviews etc, but also great opportunity for performnig clinical type of EC’s without having to travel much to do it.</p>