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<li><p>I have no idea if that stat is even published. </p></li>
<li><p>Yes it is possible to get a 2.9 regardless of your major.</p></li>
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<p>sorry, i obviously dont expect you to know the stat. what i meant to say is that some schools favor students for their grad if they are from their undergrad</p>

<p>does stanford favor its own students more?</p>

<p>I am also not sure if that stat is published. I do know that you can find out the range of GPA's of Stanford undergrads who were accepted at each medical school, including Stanford Medical School. You can also find out how many Stanford undergrads matriculated at Stanford med, but I don't think they publish how many applied. Ask a premed advisor. I do not currently know if Stanford med favors their undergrads, but I will see when I get back if I can find out.</p>

<p>Hey guys, I have two pretty unconventional questions, here goes:</p>

<p>(1) How much pior experience with neuro-anything (particularly neurobiology or just neuroscience) before coming to Stanford? I love the subject but come from an extremely disadvantaged school in waaaay west Texas. Consequently, there is no lab to work at and all of my knowledge comes from reading textbooks voraciously. I'd love to pursue this at Stanford; would it just be too much ground to make up or do I have a chance?</p>

<p>(2) I eventually hope to go to Med school, but I really want to major in Human Biology and Art History. Combine that with neuroscience and where does it lead you? Art psychotherapy. So, I have a legitimate reason for my varied interests, but is the combo pheasible? </p>

<p>Thanks so much, ya'll, I really appreciate the advice!!!</p>

<p>I didn't have any prior exposure to neuro-anything before I arrived at Stanford. However, I did had two years of research experience in many fields before coming and it helped me narrow down my field of interest. </p>

<p>You would not be at a disadvantaged at all. You can definitely be a Human Biology because within that major, there is a feature called "Area of Concentration (AC)" and your AC can be Neuro-whatever. The combo is very much feasible. Given your interest in art psychtherapy, wouldn't you want to also consider some classes in psychology?</p>

<p>1) I had NO research experience and NO neuro knowledge (except that from freshman year bio) before I got to Stanford. I learned pretty much all I know at Stanford from classes like Brain and Behavior and Cellular Neuroscience. I didn't know I was into neuro when I first got to Stanford; I saw "Brain and Behavior" in the course catalog my freshman year and thought it sounded interesting. I went in with no prior knowledge and loved it! So, two lessons here. One - don't worry about having an extensive background. Two - you might come to love a subject you hadn't considered before!</p>

<p>2) Staticsoliloquy brought up a great point with HumBio and ACs. I believe you can make up your own AC and work with an advisor to choose the appropriate coursework, though I'm not an expert on the subject. Flip through the Bulletin or Time Schedule when you get to campus and see what classes strike your fancy. You might want to take something in art history, bio, humbio, psych, or something less expected! Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>P.S. The combo is probably feasible, and I think your interests are intriguing. If that pans out, I think med schools will be quite interested. Since you're thinking of double majoring, you'll want to plan (probably with your advisor) a tentative four-year plan just to make sure you can finish on time and you have enough wiggle room for whatever else you want/need to do.</p>

<p>This article from 2000 might be interesting, especially "Pre-Med Myths" letter:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/announc/mcc.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/announc/mcc.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/announc/premed-letter.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/announc/premed-letter.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yup. SCOPE is an ER shadowing program that many premeds do. I hear that it can be a great experience, but it's quite time consuming and students tend to get crappy shifts (like 8pm-8am). One friend put it to me like this: "the program expects a lot out of you, but you get a lot back." I chose not to apply for SCOPE because of the large time committment. There are other shadowing programs at Stanford including SIMS and ODE <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/ode%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/group/ode&lt;/a> . I shadowed a thoracic surgeon through SIMS and LOVED it. I scrubbed into several surgeries and actually got to reach in through the incision and feel the ribs, and I helped with retraction (sounds boring, but I loved being useful =p) Stanford has many opportunities for clinical volunteering; check some of them out here <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/clinical.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/clinical.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I am in SCOPE. Celestial is right. It is a huge commitment: 12+ hours a week. Admission into SCOPE is also pretty competitive since it's so self-selective. You have to know what you're getting into before you apply. Sigh I am scared once winter quarter begins--research, SCOPE, and classes. I'm enjoying sleep now because I know I won't be sleeping much once this quarter begins.</p>

<p>Wow, thank you guys so much for the quick responses- you were all really helpful!</p>

<p>Hmm.. I also have another question about dance opportunities... oh, that should probably go under another section!</p>

<p>Thanks again.</p>

<p>hey out of curiosity do premed majors have to take all the chem courses (35,36,131....)offered, b/c in that case i can skip chem engin and just maj in chem or do they only take like chem x and 33</p>

<p>Premeds have to take 31X (or A/B), 33, 35, 36, 130, and 131. That's the bare minimum. You might want to take pchem (135 or the more advanced version 171). You might also want to take Biochem because some medical schools require it (188 and 189).</p>

<p>I don't understand the second part of your question Magerie.</p>

<p>Thanks for the detailed answer, staticsoliloquy. You can find more premed requirements here <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/curriculum.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/group/spa/curriculum.html&lt;/a> Of the schools that highly recommend or require biochem, many of them only ask for one quarter, so many students take just Chem/Bio 188.</p>

<p>And again, to clarify, there is no premed major. You can major in anything you like (whether it's Classics or Econ or yes, Bio) as long as you complete the premed requirements.</p>

<p>Out of the 130ish U.S. medical schools, only 14 require biochemistry. The ones that matter are: USC Keck, Brown, Mayo, UMichigan, and Case Western. Quite a shock.</p>

<p>Source: Harvard Office of Career Service 2004.</p>

<p>Celestial. Thank you for talking about SIMS. I didn't know such programs existed. =)</p>

<p>No problem! SIMS is offered through the CDC. Around October, you fill out an online application, and then you have a brief interview with a premed advisor. I believe most people are accepted the first year they apply. You can then choose from a variety of doctors in different specialties (well, you can give your top 3 choices at least :)).</p>

<p>What's SIMS? I know there was a SIMS club at my school for a year or two for "Students Interested in Medical Science." Is that the same thing?</p>

<p>Stanford Immersion in Medicine Series, I think. You can learn more about program here <a href="http://cardinalcareers.stanford.edu/shadow/premed/studentapp.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://cardinalcareers.stanford.edu/shadow/premed/studentapp.html&lt;/a> The application is not currently open. Great program =D</p>

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<p>welcome to hell guys...</p>

<p>jeeez, that is really encouraging jaywoodard...lol
what are the reasons for it being "hell" besides what i have heard about the load of chemistry and bio?</p>