Prep school visits thread

<p>I think you nailed it...or at least it matches up neatly with my observations and even more so with my son's.</p>

<p>The 9th grade dorms at Groton are basically an old-style dorm -- with many beds in one great room -- except that there are "cubicles" (with walls separating the units into 2-student segments...but the walls don't go all the way up to the ceiling). It's easy to hear everyone...which has its obvious drawbacks, but I suppose it could promote a "safer" boarding experience, too. Compared to other schools, though, it's downright freaky. I regarded it as a throwback to different times -- though these buildings were built long after those days ended. </p>

<p>I think there were 8 students to a section. So there'd be two "doubles" on one side of the "hall" and two on the other. But it's really just a large room. As you enter one of these "doubles" you enter in the center. There are two desks facing each other. The desks have hutches on top so they further separate the "double" into two discreet halves. The beds are on opposite sides of the double. Repeat 3 more times and you've got the layout for the entire floor of 8. A flip of the light switch and everyone's lights are out. (Though our guide noted that there's a small light on each desk that students can study by later on without disturbing everyone else.)</p>

<p>What struck us as being most odd at Groton was how there were several students openly snickering at us. Now I'm a big man, played lacrosse for a major university and have never been one to be snickered at...but I did check my fly to see if it was open! It was just...odd. (Yes, my fly was zipped.)</p>

<p>My son and I compared notes and he noticed the same thing. And he said he even looked at his reflection in a window to see if his tie was on backwards or something weird like that. We never did figure it out.</p>

<p>But worse than that...as I was meeting with an admissions officer my son was supposed to meet with a faculty member. The faculty member asked him to sit outside the faculty member's office for a minute. And then the faculty member totally blew off my son...and was actually rude to him. My son never did have that meeting. When I got out of the interview I immediately saw that something was wrong with my son. He wouldn't talk about it until we got into the car...</p>

<p>These sorts of experiences are personal and shouldn't be grossly generalized into something like "Groton faculty members and student treat students - or prospective students - rudely." Still, for us, we can't ignore those kinds of firsthand impressions. And we needed to narrow the choices.</p>

<p>But it's always interesting -- precisely because I know my experiences can't be extrapolated into a universal truth -- when someone else, a total stranger, echoes the same experiences/impressions that I've formed with not one, but two schools.</p>

<p>What's really more important is hearing views on schools that my son is still seriously considering (and, at this point, has applied to). Obviously, for him, I'm not talking about Groton here. But the perspective on St. Paul's is very useful to compare and contrast. If he's accepted, it's valuable information to consider. You've added a couple points I hadn't considered...and I think your perspective is useful to me because it's so foursquare with all my other impressions of both Groton and St. Paul's.</p>

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<p>Same here! It seemed like the tour guide rushed through the tour. I didn't feel like I saw the whole campus. Maybe it was because the campus was large, but actually, at the time, it didn't seem very large. She didn't show me the sports facilities, either.</p>

<p>How interesting. We had exactly the opposite experiences at Groton and St. Pauls. The kids we saw at St. Pauls looked miserable, and lost, and our tour guide rushed us through. We felt we had been processed in a slick system, even though we had personal contacts and had an interview with the headmaster.
At Groton we were greeted with warmth and personal attention. The kids were bright-eyed, friendly and seemed down to earth, and the faculty was kind and attentive. You can guess which school our daughter chose.
It must vary a good deal according to the tour guide, and the weather, and what is going on at the school at the time.</p>

<p>ARGGHHH....I was wrapping up a typically long response to seeker06 when my reply form cleared out! So here's the Lite Version:</p>

<p>It's scary enough -- as your post points out -- that we put so much weight on our own 2 hour encounters with these schools. Who's to say that my view is "right" -- even just for my child? It's all we have to go on and it has to suffice, but it's far from being a universal truth.</p>

<p>The different views we have could also (or partly) be attributed to the lenses we bring to the school and the values and priorities we have. Maybe it's not just a difference in the things we see, but a difference in the goggles through which we see those things.</p>

<p>That should be enough to warn off people from placing too much (if any) weight into these observations. Even with respect to suze -- whose views match mine consistently (so far) -- it's not like a movie review...where I'm only out $9 if it turns out that this is the one time my favorite movie reviewer and I disagree. To rely on someone else -- even someone you trust or seem to match up with -- is to place a $100K+ bet on the reliability of that observation (not to mention a possibly horrendous placement choice for your child during his/her high school years).</p>

<p>I'm glad you pointed out your 180 degree polar opposite views, seeker06, because it really underscores the highly personal -- and probably flawed -- views that get reported here. These views are interesting, but not really useful as source material for any truly important decisions.</p>

<p>I went to Avon Old Farm this saturday. I used priceline for $39 and I got Sheraon in Haverford. I always use priceline first for my travel. but I feel it is really important to visit the school.</p>

<p>For those visiting the Gunnery, remember that the Mayflower Inn (!) is literally down the street. Take advantage.</p>

<p>is one of the most expensive Inns in the country.</p>

<p>it's such a beautiful inn.. it's nicer than many 5 star hotels in my opinion.</p>

<p>It's a great inn. If you're paying full tuition for boarding school, I'm going to make the HUGE leap and assume you can afford a $500 hotel room for one night.</p>

<p>It's just a hypothesis, though.</p>

<p>By the same token, if you go on your visit, mention that you stayed at the Mayflower, and then throw in a FA application...that might not go over so well (if anyone notices and makes the connection later on).</p>

<p>that all -- just WOW.</p>

<p>One thing that's hard to get a handle on from a tour...or a revisit for that matter, is dorm life. That's something I've been checking into. Not always arriving at a, um, "happy place," so to speak. So, bearcats...is this what dorm life at Hotchkiss is really like? The shower scene and closing bit are sort of disturbing:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykHHtqQV6Y%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykHHtqQV6Y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>We Need An A...from the same people. Perhaps even more disturbing. 28 seconds uploaded just a couple hours ago (and now "removed by user").</p>

<p>Yeah I live in the town of groton..where groton school is located..and let me say that the kids are kinda stuck up. they think their better then everyone else (though they might be, considering one out of every three kids go to the ivy's) but still.</p>

<p>D'yer Maker, ^^^ haha that must really suck.</p>

<p>"One thing that's hard to get a handle on from a tour...or a revisit for that matter, is dorm life. That's something I've been checking into. Not always arriving at a, um, "happy place," so to speak. So, bearcats...is this what dorm life at Hotchkiss is really like? The shower scene and closing bit are sort of disturbing:"</p>

<p>no lol..they staged that for fun. It actually was part of the kid's portfolio for his application to the film schools.</p>

<p>Hi drnancie, we'll be visiting gunnery and berkshire. What was your general impression, thoughts, tips/advice? what kind of questions did they ask your child? Thx!</p>

<p>Don't know if people are still posting. Anyone want to share recent visits...</p>

<p>mml, we never visited gunnery and berkshire!</p>

<p>So where did you end up visiting? How did they go?</p>

<p>this is a very old thread ! the schools that we visited last year were suffield, loomis, andover, exeter, choate, and middlesex. with other children we visited peddie, milton, westover, masters, walnut hill, nmh. I think that is it</p>