<p>Thanks man. </p>
<p>I’m a junior, btw. I don’t want to leave an opening for someone to come in here saying I couldn’t get into McGill.</p>
<p>Ha. Whatever, people are dumb online… I think its called “Screen Shield”… they suddenly grow boulders between their legs cause no one can see them or tell what theyre saying until its typed and entered.</p>
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<p>Your reasoning is faulty. It goes like this “gee, that ranking system doesn’t match my personal opinion, so obviously that proves the ranking system is flawed” How about if you read the criteria used and critique it for us. Just because academics with PhDs who work in the industry do not share your highschool view of the world doesn’t make their perspective incorrect. </p>
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<p>The field goes unnamed because the academic community is an extremely small one and I would like to maintain some semblance of anonymity in this forum. The school however with open admissions is Arizona State.</p>
<p>"Most people in the rankings business think that the main problem with the Times is the opaque way it constructs its sample for its reputational rankings - a not-unimportant question given that reputation makes up 50% of the sample. Moreover, this year’s switch from using raw reputation scores to using normalized Z-scores has really shaken things up at the top-end of the rankings by reducing the advantage held by really top universities - UBC for instance, is now functionally equivalent to Harvard in the Peer Review score, which, no disrespect to UBC, is ludicrous.</p>
<p>I’ll be honest and say that at the moment the THES Rankings are an inferior product to the Shanghai Jiao Tong rankings. Any publication that genuinely thinks McGill is the 12th best university in the world - ahead of UPenn, Stanford, Berkeley, the University of Tokyo, and the Ecole Normale Superieur - has a screw loose (yes, I can say that - I’m an alumni). This doesn’t really pass the fall-down-laughing-test, which is the simplest way of validating any set of rankings."</p>
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<p>I think he’s commenting on an earlier version of the ranking but his points are still valid to me.</p>
<p>Anything is valid to you that supports your opinion.</p>
<p>Can you really say that McGill is better than Berkeley, ENS, Penn, and Stanford? No.</p>
<p>Personally, I think McGill is pretty renown as a large research university, as it receives a lot of government grants, but its undergrads might be a bit undervalued.</p>
<p>If we’re just talking about prestige, though, this past year’s Nobel laureates had 2 McGill alumni: Jack Szostak in Chemistry for telomeres and Willard Boyle in Physics for CCD.</p>
<p>McGill is decent by Canadian standards but isn’t in the same league as top schools in the US or Europe.</p>
<p>To the OP:</p>
<p>Keep in mind if you’re doing Undergrad. Bus. McGill only has BCom (bachelor of commerce), which looks weak compared to a BBA, which UMich offers. Michigan is an incredibly well balanced school, basically everything it offers is respectible, although I am not well informed enough about McGill to provide a contrast. One thing I will say about McGill’s reputation is that Canadians hype it to the extent where it sounds like Canada’s Harvard, and I will tell you I have many friends there who tell me it is an INTENSE party school.</p>
<p>@The Question;
“Keep in mind if you’re doing Undergrad. Bus. McGill only has BCom (bachelor of commerce), which looks weak compared to a BBA, which UMich offers.” </p>
<p>How exactly does it “look weak”? Bachelor of Commerce is just the Canadian term for an undergraduate business degree. Most American schools offer a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. The BBA designation that UMich offers is not the American norm. The all mean the same thing: an undergraduate degree in business.</p>
<p>tomofboston, I am afraid there’s a little more difference than just designation and names between BCom and BBA my friend. </p>
<p>BCom is closer to the study of economics (an Arts major). It focuses on theories, ideas, and concepts. It embodies a European teaching style, with focus in Economics and Math.</p>
<p>BBA is the North American approach. Hands on and practical. It is what you want if you’re pursuing an MBA or management level job.</p>
<p>If you are from Boston, then you should understand that most North American companies, especially in the US, recognize a BBA degree over a BCom degree any day of the week. Personally, I feel going through a BBA program prepares you much better for the “real world” than a BCom.</p>
<p>@The Question:</p>
<p>I have a McGill BCom and it is not in economics, math nor was it theoretical. My brother earned a BS in BA at Boston University and our curriculum was essentially the same. </p>
<p>I know that in your vast experience as a high school senior you have learned a lot, but in this case you don’t know what you are talking about. You have no idea what the real world is. BTW, my McGill BCom landed me a pretty good job in the US.</p>
<p>I dont go to McGill but my sister currently does (freshman year). I do believe Im objective because I personally dont like the school and do not wish to go there but here it goes!</p>
<p>McGill, its considered to be the best university in Canada, both in Canadian Rankings and Global rankings that have placed it higher than Ivy leagues like Brown and Dartmouth. It has a pretty solid program, and is quite well respect internationally. I have friends from Dubai to London and they tell me that Mcgill is virtually the only Canadian school known outside of Canada. The fact that 20% of their students are international speaks about its rep.</p>
<p>Admissions wise, its weird. Most kids at my school (I go to a competitive private school in toronto) think its easy. But frankly it might not be. The representative from McGill who came to speak claimed that over 30,000 students applied last year. McGill admits students SOLELY on grades. That is, they dont loom at extracirriculars, or achievements or personality. they pick the highest marks from their applicants who come from 160 countries. he said Mcgill has no offficial cutoffs but said that for management, the LOWEST AVERAGE they accepted was 91, life sciences was 90 etc. </p>
<p>In terms of student life, as a downtown urban university, you dont get the same campus lifestyle. But on the otherhand you get a unique experience living in Montreal, which is a neat (but cold!) city. In terms of partying, yes, it is a party university (according to Playboy one of the top ten in North America). When you have 18 year olds who are suddenly legal to drink, in a city that is heralded for its nightlife (including clubs, bars, strip clubs, casino), with laidback police, and an INTENSE frosh week where they have a beer tent on campus and professors who hand out drinks to students…you’ll have partying. </p>
<p>Overall, its a pretty good school. DEFINITELY not one of the best. But a good school with reasonable tuition.</p>
<p>^If you didn’t bother to point out why schools like Mcgill are ranked higher than Brown and Dartmouth, you honestly don’t know how global rankings work. It is HEAVILY biased towards large universities. Schools with a lot of graduate research strive in such rankings whereas undergraduate focused schools like Brown and Dartmouth don’t do well. That is why schools like UW-Wisconsin, U. Michigan (although good schools) are ranked higher half the Ivies.</p>
<p>Yes, I do understand that all rankings are flawed. But the fact that a leading organization in this field ranked it well, either way it has a good standing internationally, no matter how flawed. A ranking that placed brown or dartmouth higher is equally subject to error</p>
<p>Tomofboston,</p>
<p>The information I posted is soley based on the UofT and McGill websites. If McGill is indeed as you say, then I am mistaken. </p>
<p>However, I still hold the belief that BBA gets you a job easier in the States, being it is an American designation vs an European one. You may be the odd case. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.</p>
<p>And thank you! My vast experiences in high school has taught me alot! I can’t believe I’ve been working as an assistant finance manager for the past year; man, I’m going to miss these days… Unfortunately, I believe (like most 18 year olds) that I do understand what the real world is.</p>
<p>The Question:</p>
<p>I have been working in the real world for 11 years. You come across as a condescending know-it-all high school senior. </p>
<p>BTW, the standard US undergraduate degree in Business is the Bachelor of Science in Business Administration, not the BBA.</p>
<p>Good luck in San Diego. You are in for a few surprises.</p>
<p>tomofboston, i love you man. Can you please point out where I’ve been condescending? I even complimented you. You’re only proving you’re hypocritical. </p>
<p>Sir, I don’t care if you have 11 years of experience working as a clerk or some office job; it doesn’t mean you know anymore than I do. If you did, then why sir are you on these boards instead of “making it big”? </p>
<p>Nevertheless, thank you for your responses and I will gladly keep. Them in mind.</p>
<p>Yup, tomofboston is right… you come off as a high school know-it-all… whether that is your intention is another story… I just finished high school and I’ll be the first one to tell you that I don’t know much.</p>
<p>^^ Agreed. As well, @the question… I think the condescending part comes in where you patronizingly call tomofboston “sir” and refer to whatever his profession is as “11 years of clerical work”</p>
<p>Just sayin’</p>
<p>And, being almost 18 (comin up this summer YAY!)… I know zilch of the world minus my travels for sports etc… So, I kindly ask you not to lump all late teenaged people as those who are cocky enough to think they know how the world works</p>