<p>I am not privy to the Stanford/Princeton cross-admit numbers, but it is my impression that Stanford's largest overlap is with Harvard, followed by Yale, MIT and Princeton 4th.</p>
<p>Here is <em>half</em> the story for the Class of 2008 - the number of people who turned down Stanford for other schools - including Princeton. Approximately 65 cross-admits turned down Stanford for Princeton, out of a total of 821 Stanford admits who went elsewhere.</p>
<p>Approximately 425 Princeton admits to the class of 2008 went elsewhere. Since Princeton and Stanford had roughly the same yield rate, the difference can be accounted for largely by (1) the difference in class size, and (2) the difference in the percentage taken early. (ED admits at Princeton accounted for nearly 50% of the Class of 2008)</p>
<p>How to cook cross admit data. From the pool you know which ones will also go to HYP, so only grant those admissions. If 50% of RD mostly go to HYP then you claim we are that league. Key thing is ti get the yield like Harvard has to 80%. Low yield at Stanford suggest that they are playing a name association game by selectively giving admissions. Some one has to do research how many Harvard EAs and Yale EAs were given Rd admission by Stanford. That way you know what is going on.</p>
<p>Admit Loss Is An Estimate. If You Have Real Data Let Us See It. This Table Shows Hyp Wins Over Sford Bigtime. Sford Competes With Mit And Ucb Real Time.</p>
<p>Tier One; Harvrad, Yale And Princton In That Order
Tier Two Penn Columbia Brown Duke Stanford Georgetown
Tier Tech Mit Caltech Stanford Ucb Cornell Michigan, Cmu
Tier Three Nwu Dartmouth Jhu Cornell Uchicago</p>
<p>lol, that's the first time I've ever seen Stanford regarded as a "Tier Two" school. The differences in yield appear minute (if your data is reliable and up-to-date), and Stanford is strong in practically all fields. I guess you can believe what you want to believe.</p>
<p>stanford tier one only in tech/engineering. Ask harvard and yale who do they loose admits answer will be, each other, princeton, penn/columbia/brown/mit before stanford. if HY admit do not perfer stanford as top choice then how come they are in thar league. stanford is tier ii except in engineering where they compete with ucb, mit caltech. mich,cornell and cmu.</p>
<p>Princeton is definately equal to Yale.<br>
MIT/Stanford below penn and brown? Are you kidding?
While i don't see the value of Byerly's yield buckets, at least those buckets are fairly accurate (Though I would personally push Penn to the third bucket)</p>
<p>I think an accurate "Bucket" system would be</p>
<p>^^ yes, if the yield rate is the ultimate measure of a school. thankfully its not.</p>
<p>hahahahahah to think of stanford as a tier below HYP is really funny. a major reason that stanford loses many cross-admits is the distance factor. east coast admits, more often than not, prefer staying on the east coast. im not sure of the data but i believe there are more east coast cross-admits than west coast. and then i suppose the ivy aura of HYP draws a greater proportion of west coasters east?</p>
<p>My sense is that Harvard wins the lion's share of cross admits with Stanford, but that in most years Stanford more than holds its own with Yale and Princeton.</p>
<p>baba is talking so much rubbish I think he is trolling. </p>
<p>Yes, Byerly, you are absolutely correct. I think the revealed preference ranking is the best measure of which school wins in cross admit battles and the ranking places Harvard at the top by a fair margin. Yale, Stanford and Princeton are placed in that order after Harvard, but the difference between them is minute. </p>
<p>Also, it is worth noting that Stanford wins more students of Harvard in their cross-admit pool than Yale wins of Harvard, at least that is what was stated on a forum on Yale's website.</p>
<p>do you have data from Harvard or Yale where their admit go. Harvrad admit my guess would be to MIT,Yale,Brown,pton Penn,Amh then may be stanford. Need a source from harvard to publish these.</p>
<p>stanford can load up on harvard and yale EAs in RD then lose them . then publish the chart saying we lost to harvard yale. self serving loss.</p>
<p>caltech loses mostly to MIT and stanford and ucb. makes sense: it is tech and california. stanford is regional school with more than 60% class coming for pacific coast with another 10% international. where is the prestige here. if the they guts, they should limit ca intake to say 25%, i would bet that admit rate would jump to 20% and yield would drop to 50%. </p>
<p>stanford has high yield among CA and tech, i would guess around 90% which they use to balance by letting harvard/yale/pton in rd for false glory.</p>
<p>No, no, no. Byerly, I never said your buckets were wrong. In fact, according to yield, the are completely accurate. However, I don't quite agree with using yield because the fact that Princeton, Yale and Stanford are losing many admits to Harvard simply just goes to show how similar their applicant pools/accepted student pools are. If we're going by yield then schools like MIT, Caltech, Berkeley would be trumped by Dartmouth, Brown, etc. For that reason, I like to group the schools by general prestige and academic strength.</p>