Princeton vs. UC Berkeley

College Search & Selection
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<p>and hence that is what RPI rankings are for</p>

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<p>RPI is a statistical abomination</p>

<p>If Cal and Princeton played basketball on a neutral floor, Cal would be a 4 point favorite, give or take a couple.</p>

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<p>Wrong…If Cal and Princeton played on a neutral floor, Princeton would beat Cal.</p>

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<p>I’m not a basketball fan, so I don’t care. Cal is dropping baseball after this season, so Princeton will at least still have a team.</p>

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<p>Tell that to the NCAA Tournament seeding committe. Princeton would be seeded 13th and Cal would not even be seeded in the top 16.</p>

<p>[The</a> Bracket Project’s Bracket Matrix - 2011](<a href=“http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm]The”>http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm)</p>

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<p>You can’t say that with absolute certainty. No result is preordained.</p>

<p>But I can tell you with a large degree of certainty that Cal would be a betting favorite, because any predictor rating with any statistical credibility has them ranked about 30 spots ahead of Princeton.</p>

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<p>I’d love to.</p>

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<p>ThisCould, I am sorry, but maybe you failed to read this post of mine where the consensus is that Princeton would be a 13th seed and Cal worse than a 16th seed in the Tournament:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12135504-post45.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/12135504-post45.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I’m sorry but maybe you don’t understand that who gets into the tournament is a different question from who’s the better team and who would win if they played against each other.</p>

<p>and *** do you mean by “worse than a 16th seed”, it makes me wonder if you know anything about college basketball.</p>

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<p>ThisCould, ha!</p>

<p>now you are very funny</p>

<p>again, </p>

<p>the RPI rates Princeton BB above Cal</p>

<p>the consensus rates Princeton above Cal as ranked for the Tournament and therefore who would be the favorite if they played against each other</p>

<p>what more can I say?</p>

<p>then there is the insult about my basketball knowledge - it is pretty obvious that your knowledge of college BB is pretty low</p>

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<p>Cal’s ruggers could take out Princeton’s football team. :D</p>

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<p>“Cal’s ruggers could take out Princeton’s football team”</p>

<p>I probably believe you on this since Cal’s Ruggers are consistently among the top in the country</p>

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<p>meanwhile what is up with the USC loss?</p>

<p>70 - USC
56 - Cal</p>

<p>If Princeton loses to Harvard on Saturday maybe Cal will get to play Princeton in the NIT tournament. Princeton, of course, would be ranked higher.</p>

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<p>You’re not understanding that Princeton (potentially) getting into the tournament by virtue of being Ivy League champion doesn’t make them a better team than Cal, and it CERTAINLY doesn’t make them a betting favorite.</p>

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<p>Not an insult, a serious question given your phrasing.</p>

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<p>USC’s a better team than Cal, as the RPI so clearly fails to reflect. And that’s why USC was a 3.5 point favorite going into the game. Funny how that works.</p>

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<p>and yet, for the third time, you fail to understand that IF PRINCETON DID NOT WIN THE IVY LEAGUE ON SATURDAY, it would be seeded 13th in the tournament and Cal would be worse than 16th as exhibited by this link that I have posted for you FOR THE THIRD TIME:</p>

<p>[The</a> Bracket Project’s Bracket Matrix - 2011](<a href=“http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm]The”>http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm)</p>

<p>you would also have to be braindead not to realize that the highest seeds that gets chosen for the tournament without a league championship are the 12th and 11th seeds, therefore Princeton’s 13th seed rating would not be enough to get into the Big Dance - and, by defiinition, Cal’s >16th seed would mean the same for Cal</p>

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<p>I’m not particularly a basketball fan myself…but when you say:</p>

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<p>You should just say, “they’re not even on the bubble,” or “they’re out of the dance,” etc.</p>

<p>The highest “at large” team is ‘11th and 12th seed…’ sounds about right. Lower seeds are smaller- conference champions, etc.</p>

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<p>Reading comprehension fail. I said that Cal would be a favorite on a neutral floor. Your point continues to be unrelated to that.</p>

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<p>lol why is this even a thread? Princeton of course! </p>

<p>If you can’t pay, Princeton should give you FA. Go for Princeton. Don’t look back at Berkeley. Geez. Berkeley has become so overrated in these forums…</p>

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<p>“I said that Cal would be a favorite on a neutral floor. Your point continues to be unrelated to that”</p>

<p>and I don’t agree with you on Cal being a favorite against Princeton in BB on a neutral court…again, maybe they will meet in the NIT…on second thought Princeton is beating Harvard this saturday and skipping the NIT.</p>

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<p>But this isn’t a matter of opinion. As mentioned earlier in the thread, the statistical models used to compute betting lines have Cal ranked about 20-30 spots higher than Princeton. It’s a matter of fact that on a neutral court, Cal would be a ~4 point favorite.</p>

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<p>"But this isn’t a matter of opinion. As mentioned earlier in the thread, the statistical models used to compute betting lines have Cal ranked about 20-30 spots higher than Princeton. It’s a matter of fact that on a neutral court, Cal would be a ~4 point favorite. "</p>

<p>ThisCouldBe, well then please provide the links to prove your point, just like I provided the RPI and seed links</p>