Princeton vs. Yale: Prestige

<p>Ummm, I think svalbardlutefisk’s comment was just saying its dumb to pick a school based on prestige, especially when the difference is so negligible as it is between Yale and Princeton. </p>

<p>Regardless, I personally think that if there is even a debate regarding who is more prestigious, they’re probably about the same…</p>

<p>UCLA is 22,900,000 on google, so what? I would still go to Yale or Harvard</p>

<p>Yale has a slight edge worldwide – for example, the Times, Europe’s largest newspaper, recently called Harvard and Yale “the two greatest universities in the world” and declared them to have surpassed Oxford and Cambridge. H & Y have a huge advantage over Oxbridge or others because they are so well-funded.</p>

<p>The Times Higher Education Supplement (THES), by far the most prestigious and well-read college and university publication in the world, came out with the following overall ranking in 2007:</p>

<p>1 HARVARD University United States</p>

<p>2= University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom
2= YALE University United States
2= University of OXFORD United Kingdom </p>

<p>5 Imperial College LONDON United Kingdom</p>

<p>6 PRINCETON University United States </p>

<p>Newsweek ranked the “Top 100 Global Universities” and placed Yale #3, Princeton #15: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/226863-newsweek-ranks-world-s-top-100-global-universities.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/226863-newsweek-ranks-world-s-top-100-global-universities.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That said, both are obviously incredible universities, at both the undergraduate and graduate level. Yale and Princeton, along with Caltech, are unsurpassed in their overall quality of undergraduate education. According to COHE, in overall resources spent per undergraduate, Caltech is #1, Yale #2 and Princeton #3. Both Yale and Princeton do very well in terms of placement into the top professional schools: <a href=“WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights”>WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights; , both send a very high percentage of their graduates to top Ph.D. programs, and both are highly regarded for undergraduate business/finance recruiting, as well as other types of recruiting, for TFA or NYCTF, for example.</p>

<p>Visit each for 2-3 days and decide which is better for you. That will have much more of an impact, since how you actually do there is very important – and much more important than anything having to do with “prestige.”</p>

<p>PtonGrad2000, I assure you that I am a high school senior this year. I cannot remember the context of that particular quote (it won’t display anything more than just my post in the link), but I imagine that I mistakenly put “years” instead of “months” or something equally dumb- I have been known to make mistakes. I have no reason to lie about finaid, pretend to be making a difficult choice, or posting questions about various universities just to waste time. I am being 100% truthful in my description of the difference in finaid packages, and I have been in contact with Princeton’s finaid to address this huge difference. They have not addressed my request yet.</p>

<p>I understand your decision to check out my credibility, but the unreasoning part of me is offended/creeped out that you apparently put considerable time into determining whether or not I am real/lying about my aid packages. I feel the need to be frank about this, though I understand where you’re coming from in seeing a discrepency in statements. Perhaps publicly addressing this confusion is inappropriate, especially as it necessitates this equally awkward explaination.</p>

<p>Ihavehope13, there is no confusion here and this is not just about your claims about the aid packages. I’m surprised you’re still playing this game of pretending you’re someone you are not. This is the kind of behavior that damages a useful public forum like CC. For anyone who wishes to confirm my opinion, simply do a search of this particular poster’s threads and ask yourself whether a pattern emerges. </p>

<p>Ihavehope13, here is the full thread.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/454663-interview-required-does-everyone-get-interview.html#post1059723058[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/454663-interview-required-does-everyone-get-interview.html#post1059723058&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In January of this year another poster had written the following about his Princeton interview and others’ concerns that they might not get an interview: “i sent my app in october and i just had my interview last week. i wouldn’t worry.” </p>

<p>To this, you responded ten minutes later: “Yeah, when I applied a few years ago, I didn’t have an interview until the beginning of Feb.” Now you tell me…would substituting the word “months” for “years” make sense given that you were writing this in the past tense during the month of January?</p>

<p>There is more but I’ll leave it at this. There is no reasonable way of explaining away your earlier statement and anyone who does a little thinking will see this. I’ll not engage again on this because, as I’ve found with other similar posters, there’s no end to the deceptions or the tenaciousness, especially when they’ve been caught in that deception.</p>

<p>To other readers of this thread: these cases of certain posters posing as high school students is truly unworthy of the schools they’re promoting and should be denounced. I’ve asked on the Yale board and will repeat here my desire that each of us come forward to speak out against this kind of behavior whether done by supporters of other schools or by supporters of Princeton. It’s not fair to real high school students who come to this board to get accurate information and honest opinions.</p>

<p>I seriously am a high school student. I am not lying, but I suppose there is no way to substantiate that. I would not waste my time “promoting (???)” a school (I don’t understand why making a true claim about my aid package would do that) by pretending to have recieved a better finaid package from them. As far as that post, I honestly don’t remember it. It is possible that I was on a public computer, or that I made some kind of mistake… I don’t know. I have been posting for a while to make a college CHOICE, not to promote an agenda. You seem very sure of your accusation, but consider how thin the evidence is that you are making it on. I would not hurt a school’s reputation by pretending to be someone I’m not in order to “promote” it. I am considering Princeton, too, but I have not yet visited… </p>

<p>I don’t want to fight you online, nor do I wish to try to prove I am who I say I am. By extension, you have accused me of acting on Yale’s behalf when I’m only affiliated with a high school as a senior. Please stop before this gets out of hand. I apologize for any percieved inconsistancy, and I assure you that you are mistaken. On my good faith, I ask you to consider that you are wrong and how that might affect this situation.</p>

<p>Is Yale’s financial aid package really supposed to be better than Princeton’s? Princeton’s financial aid has been incredibly generous, for me. Yale’s, not so much. But I’m sure everyone’s experiences are different.</p>

<p>But anyway, in terms of prestige: that’s something I’m still trying to figure out (it sounds pathetic but I’m running out of other deciding factors). I live very close to Princeton and getting in is kind of like the Holy Grail for kids here, because their aid packages are so good. Still, many people have been more impressed with Yale. Princeton has a sort of stuffy-snobby reputation and honestly, I did get that sense when I visited the campus.</p>

<p>^ I thought and heard that about Pton, too, but everyone I have heard from - on CC and Princeton Admitted Students chat - says otherwise. If you look for snobs, you’ll find it, but I assume that’s the case for other schools (including Yale) as well. It seems to me, though, that Princeton students are actually pretty outgoing and cool.</p>

<p>I’m visiting this week, though. So, who knows. My opinion might change, but this is what I have gotten from it so far.</p>

<p>Visit Yale :] And don’t trust stereotypes. If you didn’t get that sense when you visited, that’s probably b/c it doesn’t exist.</p>