<p>BS/MD Programs such as USF and the 8-year program at UCF are heavy on stats in order to be accepted. What other BS/MD programs are stat heavy and are not THAT difficult to get into? I do not care about prestige or rank, as long as it's a fairly decent program.</p>
<p>I took the SAT last year as a sophomore and scored a 2100. I will be taking it again this year and hoping for a 2300+. I have all A's except for one B I got in a dual enrollment class. Don't know my exact GPA, so can't give you that info. But I'm hopefully expecting for all A's from now on, so in total my high school career will have only one B and all A's (hopefully!)</p>
<p>Um… CWRU PPSP? That’s just a guess. Oh, & the University of South Alabama interviews only the candidates with the highest scores so I guess thats stat heavy. I don’t think its too difficult to get into, but then again, it is a BSMD program.</p>
<p>just fyi: As a person who has grown up around CWRU, I can tell you that PPSP has recently become a pretty darn competitive program. 8-10 seats out of 1500 some applicants, and most of the accepted have either cured cancer, established world peace, or accomplished some other amazing feat.
doesn’t mean you shouldn’t apply there. it’s just not any more or less competitive than other mid/top tier BSMDs. </p>
<p>idk what state you live in, but NEOMED leans toward stats and OH residents. I’ve heard UMKC is attainable as long as you have medical experience (research, volunteering, etc.)</p>
<p>Agreed, Case has a great medical school and their program probably is top 3 in the country by medical school rank (Brown and Northwestern are the other 2 IIRC).</p>
<p>OP, do you not have any medical ECs at all? Even the easiest programs to get into will expect a few. </p>
<p>In the northeast, UConn, Drexel, and AMC seem to care less about ECs but still want them.</p>
<p>Note: The USF 7-year program isn’t a true guarantee, there’s only a possibility of early acceptance after year 2 in the Honors College, you don’t seem to apply to the program until that point. The UCF 8 year gives acceptance early, but requires a 32 MCAT, relatively high GPA, thesis requirement, volunteering hours, med school interview, and faculty evaluations which all need to be “passed” to keep that seat. So, these programs seem to give seats from HS with only GPA and SAT minimums, but they might expect more than that, and either way you still can be rejected later on.</p>
<p>Neoevolution, I have some EC’s but nothing great tha would set me apart from others. My high school is just terrible and I’m having to learn EVERYTHING myself (science-wise). </p>
<p>Many BS/MD programs require SAT subject tests, and I just don’t have the knowledge to be able to score well in them. For example, I’m taking chem right now at my high school, and we’re on chapter 4 (most of my friends are on 7 or 8, I think), and I barely know anything about chem. The same with bio last year - I learned almost nothing. My school uses these crappy Christian science textbooks who provide almost no information when compared to AP textbooks such as Campbells (yes, I am reading an AP textbook as I go along to learn more). In order for me to score well on these subject tests, I’m going to have to spend most of my summer studying for Math 2, Chem/bio, and Lit. on my own and then I plan to take the subject test early senior year. (As of two days ago, I had thrown out this plan, and decided to try and apply to programs that are heavy on SAT and GPA only).</p>
<p>MY EC’s consist of roughly 200 hours so volunteer at a hospital, and A LOT of work experience. My school has no clubs, no sports, nothing. (Though I am playing basketball in a league out of school…)</p>
<p>Now, I dual enroll at a local CC, but their clubs are entirely different compared to high school clubs, especially with the timings that they meet (many times I have class…)</p>
<p>Any advice?</p>
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<p>Do you not recommend I look favorably upon USF and UCF’s programs? I’ve looked over the benchmarks for both of these schools and they’re not completely out of the waters - are they not reasonable?</p>
<p>What should I do? What schools should I be looking at?</p>
<p>^No, some BS/MD programs don’t even make you take the MCAT (which is awesome), or have a relatively low requirement of a 28 or 29. I haven’t come across any that require interviews even after you’re admitted to the program. Personally, I wouldn’t even want to go into UCF’s program because of how many requirements they have, AND it’s not even accelerated.</p>
<p>Sanguine, those programs that require no MCAT’s are very hard to get into and basically a crapshoot (ivy-league level), and I’m going to try and do my best to get into them, but I’m not going to hang onto them - I’d be perfectly fine going to any 7 year BS/MD program that is somewhat reasonable in terms of its program. </p>
<p>I’m lost guys…at first I had given up on SAT subject tests because for me to study for them (starting from scratch) is going to be pretty difficult. However, I’ve decided to study for them and just take them…seeing that UCF and USF aren’t great options since they’re not guaranteed. </p>
<p>What programs should I be looking at? I plan to take the Physics B subject test, Math 2, and Chemistry subject tests and hopefully have a 2300+ on the SAT. What else should I do?</p>
<p>Feeling down and pretty hopeless with the short amount of time I have left and the work I still need to put in…seems impossible to me.</p>
<p>Dreamz: I feel you…I attend a severely academically challenged school in rural Hawaii. I took 4 semesters of on-line Chem, 2 semesters Algebra 2, 2 semesters Pre-calc (BYU-high school on-line) and studied 4 review books for SAT subject tests. Was a 9 month effort but pulled 770 Chem and 800 Math 2, so it CAN be done. The average SAT at my school is 1340/2400 and ACT is 21. I have broken up fist-fights in my AP History class !! It is comical but sad commentary on schools in America. Dont give up…you obviously are educable and resourceful…</p>
<p>I’d say Drexel’s 7yr bs/md is a good bet. It’s a decent program and they like good stats so it’s relatively easier to get in to. Just do one medical EC and you’re set.</p>
<p>Shadowing is hard to get without connections sometimes, but you can try contacting hospitals/practices in your area and hope to get lucky. You can also volunteer somewhere that isn’t a hospital, like a nursing home, this will give you more diverse experiences.</p>
<p>As far as SAT2s go, self studying can be very effective. Check out Amazon reviews for the particular subject you are going to take to see which company has the best review books for that test.</p>
<p>If med programs require ECs, a thesis, and then an interview, I don’t consider that a strong guarantee. And the USF one doesn’t guarantee entry into the program until 2nd year, again a very weak guarantee. I only looked at programs that required MCAT and GPA.</p>
<p>Drexel and AMC are easier programs in the northeast, there are others run by state medical schools that are often easier too (UMDNJ, UConn, neomed)</p>
<p>“No, some BS/MD programs don’t even make you take the MCAT (which is awesome), or have a relatively low requirement of a 28 or 29.”
-Consider all program, do not rule out the ones that require MCAT. Consider that experience of some people in the program that has requirement of 27. Some of them are getting 25+ in the first diagnostic practice MCAT test. They take this test without ANY preparation and some even without completing important pre-reqs like Physics. To rule out program like this because of MCAT requirement is simply silly. If you have stats (and other stuff) for bs/md, more likely than not, you would be such a person who can easily get about 25 or higher on the very first practice MCAT test before any preparation.</p>