<p>I was just curious. How did you score on your PSAT sophomore year and junior year. And did those scores increase when you took your SAT junior year or senior year? Give your scores. That would be much appreciated</p>
<p>THANKS, </p>
<p>CC USER</p>
<p>Check out this thread <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=52299%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=52299</a> for a very in-depth look at how CCers did on the PSAT as compared to the SAT thanks to Papa Chicken .</p>
<p>ok thank you</p>
<p>Hecotonchires, I was looking at the Iillinois data - a smaller percentage of people scored in the 70-80 range in the math and CR sections in 2004 than in 2003 - but 3% more scored 70-80 in writing...</p>
<p>2003 (70-80)</p>
<p>V: 2.8%
M: 4.1%
W: 4.4%</p>
<p>2004 (70-80)</p>
<p>CR: 2.1%
M: 3.8%
W: 7.3%</p>
<p>2002</p>
<p>V 2.2%
M 4.2%
W 3.5%</p>
<p>2001</p>
<p>V 2.6%
M 4.3%
W 3.7%</p>
<p>The 2004 writing stat really scares me...</p>
<p>University of California considers dropping National Merit program
Concerns over the PSAT's validity as a predictor of college success and the failure of the selection process to produce racially diverse winners have prompted University of California chancellors at six campuses to consider pulling out of the National Merit Scholarship program. Last month, a UC faculty leadership council voted unanimously for the campuses to leave the program, as UC Berkeley and two other UC schools already have done. Los Angeles Times</p>
<p>I decided that that information couldnt really suggest anything.</p>
<p>Here are the percentages of those scoring from 70-80 in New Jersey last year, where the cutoff was 6 points higher than in Illinois:</p>
<p>V 2.7
M 4.0
W 4.1</p>
<p>They are all lower than Illinois from last year....whats going on???? If there cutoff is so high, shoulden't a HIGHER percentage of kids be scoring in the 70-80 range?</p>
<p>I took a PSAT writing practice test solely testing writing ability (not essay). I scored 33 out of 42 correct. What score out of 800, would be equivalent to 33/42. On my diagnostic i answered 16/20 correct and got a 70. I would assume based upon that that my score would be around a 680,690,700, considering that 33/42 is relatively equal to 16/20. Please explain how you calculated the score. Thank you.</p>
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<p>Here are the percentages of those scoring from 70-80 in New Jersey last year, where the cutoff was 6 points higher than in Illinois:</p>
<p>V 2.7 M 4.0 W 4.1</p>
<p>They are all lower than Illinois from last year....whats going on???? If there cutoff is so high, shoulden't a HIGHER percentage of kids be scoring in the 70-80 range?
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<p>What you are forgetting is that percentages are a useful comparison within the SAME state, when comparing between states, you also have to take into account the population (which can also be taken into account in same state comparisons as to what ranges are looked at, since if there is a large population in a state and a high cutoff, look primarily at 75-80 and ignore 70-74).</p>
<p>For 2004 (class of 2006), New Jersey had 67,344 people compared to Illinois' 51,579. For 2003 (class of 2005), NJ had 63,758 and Illinois had 51,429.</p>
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<p>The PSAT is hardly a valid estimator of SAT performance, so converting any PSAT score to a SAT score is impossible.</p>
<p>If people had the cutoffs for the 2000-2004 PSATs, I could probably make better predictions.</p>
<p>I took a PSAT writing practice test solely testing writing ability (not essay). I scored 33 out of 42 correct. What score out of 800, would be equivalent to 33/42. On my diagnostic i answered 16/20 correct and got a 70. I would assume based upon that that my score would be around a 680,690,700, considering that 33/42 is relatively equal to 16/20. Please explain how you calculated the score. Thank you.</p>
<p>Hec,
2002 Total 74,876 215 cutoff
CR 75-80 377 .5
70-74 1190 1.6
M 75-80 749 1.0
70-74 1558 2.1
W 75-80 1009 1.3
70-74 1209 1.6
2003 Total 74,520 215 Cutoff
CR 75-80 501 .7
70-74 1194 1.6
M 75-80 718 1.0
70-74 1267 1.7
W 75-80 944 1.3
70-74 1815 2.4
2004 Total 79,307 ? Cutoff
CR 75-80 445 .6
70-74 731 .9
M 75-80 786 1.0
70-74 1277 1.6
W 75-80 1457 1.8
70-74 2860 3.6 (???)
Your guess??</p>
<p>rapguy,</p>
<p>The trouble with this analysis is the following. Suppose a student gets 2 80s on 2 sections but a 59 on another section, that is a 219. Good enough in most states for NMS.</p>
<p>Now for my guess, I think it will be 215. The Math and CR numbers are down a little but the W is up significantly. That may even make it 216.</p>
<p>Note, that the target is the top .5% of test takers in each state are NMS qualified.</p>
<p>When do you find out whether or not you're a National Merit Scholar?</p>
<p>pretty late in the year. i got my news around january or february or something like that. :P national merit scholar is easy once u pass the cutoff. 15/16 make it to scholar after cutoff. :) but the hard part is getting money</p>
<p>Does anybody know the cut-off for New York? I couldn't find it in the statistics</p>
<p>chris122,</p>
<p>They do not publish the cut-off number for each state until sometime in September. Thus the reason we are speculating on what the cut-offs will be based upon the information that has been published already. Here is a site that lists the cut-offs for the last 2 years:</p>