Public Ivies vs. Top Private Schools

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<p>I was wondering how the Public Ivies are seen by graduate schools when compared to the top, non Ivy-League private schools.
Are schools like New York University, University of Washington, Wisconsin-Madison, Michigan-Ann Arbor, Illinois-Champaign held in the same regard as Stanford, Northwestern, U of Chicago, Vanderbilt, Rice, etc? </p>

<p>Would it be advisable to transfer to a public Ivy if you get into one of them and you also get into one of those top private schools? Or would it be a better decision to go to the private school?</p>

<p>My concern is that if you transfer to a public university you'll have to work exponentially harder to get into a top grad school like Yale Law School or Wharton. I don't know if thats true, thats just how I've always thought of it. </p>

<p>I just want to know what the perception of the public ivies is by graduate schools. Its a really important factor for me because my family is extremely poor and if I don't have to join ROTC to pay for tuition, I won't because I really dislike the military lifestyle and would rather cough up less money for a public school than sacrifice a couple of years to afford a private one and then find myself serving time for something I support but personally would not enjoy.</p>

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<p>whats a public ivy?</p>

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<p>^^^[1](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy]Public”>Public Ivy - Wikipedia)</p>

  1. Public</a> Ivy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ↩︎

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<p>If your main concern is getting into grad school and financing your undergrad education, I say go to a public school and focus on making your transcript spotless and preparing for your LSATs/GREs/etc. Apply to an Ivy or two, as their financial aid policies tend to be more generous than their public counterparts, but not always for transfers; it really depends on the situation and you should apply to an Ivy or two anyway so that you can keep your options open should their aid package be surprisingly generous.</p>

<p>You talk of perception, but according to whom? To me, the idea of Public/Little?Black/Southern/etc. Ivies is just absurd: There are eight Ivy League schools and I can assure you that number won’t change. That said, the slight boost to your applications you may get by attending an Ivy will doubtfully make or break your chances at Yale Law/Wharton/etc., so don’t sweat it if you’re going public.</p>

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<p>First, NYU is private, not public.</p>

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<p>It is going to be very difficult to get good FA or merit aid as a transfer to an OOS public. The only ones that give decent need based FA to OOS students are UVA and UNC-CH. While some have good merit aid for fr admissions, there is much less in the way of substantial merit scholarships for transfers.</p>

<p>As for your other question, you probably won’t like my answer: it’s not the school you go to, it’s what you do when you get there.</p>

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<p>just so you know, new york university is private.</p>

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<p>lol at NYU having good financial aid. their financial aid is deplorable for freshmen and even worse for transfers. seriously.</p>

<p>NYU has excellent grad school placement stats, but it’s not worth it if you need extensive financial aid.</p>

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<p>Too bad you don’t live in CA, their public schools are very respected. oh but I’ve heard that schools like Cornell and Brown give good FA…but not 100% sure, just hearsay</p>

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<p>I agree SMCGuy, but I applied to some UCs anyway.
If I don’t get into Northwestern or Duke, Cal-Berkeley is next on my list. The price doesn’t scare me too much, I’m going to have to do ROTC wherever I go unfortunately.</p>

<p>(and yeah I know NYU’s a private school, but I always think of it as a public ivy because of its size)</p>

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<p>Hearsay indeed, here’s what B says on their website:</p>

<p>[Brown</a> Admission: Transfer Students](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>

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<p>In addition, B is need-AWARE for transfer students:</p>

<p><a href=“https://financialaid.brown.edu/Cmx_Content.aspx?cpId=56[/url]”>https://financialaid.brown.edu/Cmx_Content.aspx?cpId=56&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>So, if you check the FA box, you will be put in a different applicant pool than full payers.</p>

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<p>even if you dont check the FA box can you still apply for it after your admitted?</p>

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<p>The Public Ivies in NY are Binghamton (University) and Geneseo (Liberal Arts College)</p>

<p>I attended Geneseo undergrad and saved a ton of money and then attended NYU for Grad. Geneseo is definitely worth a look! </p>

<p>[State</a> University of New York at Geneseo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_University_of_New_York_at_Geneseo]State”>State University of New York at Geneseo - Wikipedia)</p>

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<p>R_M,
Go to the second link I gave, the answer is there plain and simple.</p>

<p>Enough with the Public Ivy baloney already, it’s just somebody’s construct, not a real entity. The Ivy league is an athletic conference and a college is just a college no matter what you want to label it.</p>

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<p>i wasn’t talking specifically about brown</p>

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<p>THANK YOU, entomom! my bf is a Cornellian and he and i always have a laugh over all this “new Ivy” “public Ivy” business. he likes to say, “it’s just a football league.”</p>

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<p>Then you’ll have to go to the website of the school(s) you were asking about, won’t you?</p>

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<p>Amen map. It’s bad enough to have to listen constantly about people wanting to go to an Ivy league school, as if they’re all made with the same cookie cutter. Now we have to decide which schools we want to call “Public Ivies”, and it appears that the next step is that they don’t even have to be Public!</p>

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<p>really? I hear binghamton is a great school. who knows, maybe someday the public ivies will overtake the actual Ivy League schools in terms of academic reputation</p>

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<p>^^^Not in my lifetime.</p>

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<p>Keep dreamin’ big. Ain’t gonna happen. Ipse dixit.</p>