"There is a reason that the federal gov't approved all those earmarks to build new univ engineering bldgs in the state of Alabama"
AL has powerful Congress critters good at bringing home the pork?
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lol…however, I think many of us can agree that putting tax dollars towards building state of the art eng’g facilities will have a much larger ROI than bridges to nowhere.
Yes, about 10 years ago, Senator Shelby decided that Alabama’s univs needed to have “elite school-like engineering facilities” so he promised himself that he would direct $1 Billion towards those improvements. He pushed thru multi-year earmarks to fund those new facilities on the various AL campuses with eng’g. And, since UA is his alma mater, he directed most of the money there.
UA new eng’g buildings consist of over 900,000 square feet.
Those 4 HUGE new eng’g buildings on UA’s campus can be seen here, surrounding a new eng’g quad…named after Senator Shelby http://eng.ua.edu/buildings/
If the student wants to go to Purdue, that’s fine. I would not push Alabama or any other school on him. If it’s of interest to get out of state, and he qualifies for great scholarship money, might as well give it a go He can transfer to Purdue at state rates later, but the offer for 'Bama is only for straight out of high school.
My friends son went to Alabama for a year–with no scholarship money. He was full pay. And he transferred to Purdue the next year due to a girlfriend situation The girlfirend did not work out, he hates the weather there, but is fine with the school, and is sticking it out there. So things can work out in many different ways.
Blossom, you say that double standard doesn’t exist, and say they would be opening themselves to lawsuits if there were. Well, ther are lawsuits for that kind of thing all over the place…
I would get fired for obscuring the GPA’s of African American candidates on their resume and pretending that a 2.9 is a 3.4. I work for a large public corporation.
Carry on. If you all say that companies which state a particular job requires a particular GPA to be considered, but then ignore their own arbitrary number so that they can hire minorities with much lower GPA’s for that particular job then hey, you all must be right.
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Carry on. If you all say that companies which state a particular job requires a particular GPA to be considered, but then ignore their own arbitrary number so that they can hire minorities with much lower GPA’s for that particular job then hey, you all must be right.
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WHO said that companies state a certain GPA is required, but then ignore??? WHO SAID THAT???
typically, a company will put out some BROAD criteria, like BS in Eng’g, Physics, Math on their reqs.
I have never seen a GPA requirement, and I doubt my H did either…but I’ll ask him.
My younger son’s engineering internship required a minimum of 3.3 to be considered. I just looked on their website and they still say they require at least a 3.3 to be considered for an internship for next summer.
“And it makes me wonder why Alabama is so desperately trying to get top tier students. The better engineering schools don’t have to try so hard. Most don’t even give out a whole lot of merit scholarships, yet Alabama is free tuition?”
Because they are trying to up their national reputation. Duh. What’s so difficult about that?
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My younger son’s engineering internship required a minimum of 3.3 to be considered. I just looked on their website and they still say they require at least a 3.3 to be considered for an internship for next summer.
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Was that the company’s req’t or the school’s?
This thread is kind of jumbled between what a school requires for interns, to what a company requires for interns, and what a company requires for new-hires.
Each one can demand whatever they want, but when a school says that its students must have a 3.X+ to get an internship or co-op, then it can hurt too many URMs in a way that shouldn’t be.
It is the company’s requirement and it is still on their website for applying for next summer . Anyone applying for an internship needs to have at least a 3.3 GPA.
^ That said if a student wants to they could apply anyway… Say for example someone had a major GPA above 3.3 but their cumulative GPA was below because they got a couple bad grades in some general ed class like history and they are STEM major. They could put both GPA’s on the resume and give it a try. I’ve seen postings on reddit about for co-op and internship’s for CS and Engineering majors requiring a 3.0 GPA and then in the comments they will say but if you have skill xyz we can work with you…
^Because many URMs attend lower-performing schools* that are plagued by endemic problems, so that even if they, individually, are high-performing, they have 13 years of lower-quality education to catch up upon when they get to college. That’s not equality to judge in the same way two kids in the same freshman class, one of whom went to a good school and wrote a 10-page research paper for Junior English, and another one where Honors English was having one question per test where you write a one-page essay -through no fault of their own, they just didn’t get the same preparation; how fair would it be if you didn’t give some leeway so that the second kid catches up with the first one? (By the way, this is a genuine example). So, general GPA may be lower because for the first 2-3 semesters, the second kid was playing catch-up, but the last semester and especially in his/her major, that same kid has a good GPA. Would you cut the second kid from your list of applicants just because they got a bunch of C’s their freshman year, and from their resume you know they went to a really crappy high school so those C’s probably reflect more the high school than the job applicant’s work ethics?
(*This would often correlate more with socio-economic status but in Alabama this would also match ethnic background.)
Fairness is more important to fighting inequality.
@mom2collegekids If you are referring to my posts regarding that subject that briefly appeared on another thread, then you should know the answer to your question. Or was that question out of the blue?
