I am an Indian undergraduate applying for management information system (mis) major. I have already gotten into the following 4 universities
Kelley, indiana
Krannert, purdue
Carlson, minnesota
University of wisconsin madison
which one of the 4 university would be the best? Finance is not a problem. Include other subjects like accounting, finance, management too.
Also which of these offer mis as a stem degree?
Carlson is known for its MIS program. I’m not sure what you mean as a STEM degree - meaning through the department of engineering? Indiana universities have their specialties split between the two flagships - IU stronger in business, Purdue stronger in STEM. UMN and UW-Madison are more typical flagships offering all subject areas. Of the 4, UW-Madison is academically the strongest but they are all good universities. It is important to note that direct admit to the business program at UW is unlikely for freshman (I think they may take 50). You apply after freshman year and with a more competitive group of students, it is not a certainty.
I know you said finance is not a problem but UMN will be the least expensive of the four. This is your best option imo.
Thank u singermom4. Your suggestion is incredibly helpful. Certainly now indiana and minnesota are the top 2 and minnesota is going to be my 1st choice.
Regarding stem, mis is considered stem by some university and not by some. Do you know which of these university consider mis as a stem major?
I’m not certain how they are viewed, however, UMN has an engineering college - most the computer science classes are in this college. I don’t believe IU offers engineering. The designations may be the same but you would be in classes with more STEM students at UMN. Not sure if this answers your question. You would have to look at the courses offered by each university in the MIS field and determine which best fits your needs.
Ok thnks for the suggestion. Between minnesota and indiana which one offers better placement?
They both have good career placement centers. Minneapolis has more job opportunities than the Indiana area. The other main difference is weather - relatively mild winters in Indiana though they do get a winter. Personalities of the schools are a bit different too with UMN having overall higher caliber students (look at common data set statistics) and less of a party school (thought that happens to some degree at all schools). Indiana is also a more conservative state than Minnesota and since schools have mostly in-state students I feel that has some bearing on the feel of the student population. Also as an international student it would be more convenient for you to be near a major airport. From IU you would likely need to bus to Indianapolis to catch a flight (which is also a smaller hub than Minneapolis).
Important factor to consider: Kelley business school is very large. If you do not get direct admit into either business school you have a very high probability of getting into Kelley by sophomore year with good performance whereas entrance into Carlson would be more difficult without direct admit.
I have gotten direct permit to kelley but not yet received a word from carlson. What do you mean by party school?the usnews ranking for finance, accounting , management , marketing and mis indicated kelley being better than carlson overall. Isn’t that correct? Thanks for the placement information it will definitly come in handy
Overall ranking for kelley is higher but carlson believe is higher for MIS. They are close enough in rankings though Kelley may have more immediate name recognition. ‘Party’ refers to level of socializing - so your dorm environment may be noisier at IU - especially if you pick the Kelley LLC. Stick with Honors dorm at IU and you will be fine.
Both are good options. We looked at both schools closely but my S is a double major in CS and Economics so we weren’t looking at the business schools. Is there a big price difference for you between the two?
No. Actually price doesn’t concern much because I applied to each university after seriously considering the costs. Iu might be more costly althoughut I dont think that would play a major role in my decision. What is difference in kelley llc and kelley honors dorm?
There are actually plenty of OOS students at IU - about 30% OOS, it may even be higher. There are lots of kids from Chicago in the Kelley school - and there may be in MN, as well.
My own research into both schools (for my D, who is NOT interested in Business…) is that U MN-TC is more selective and has overall higher caliber students. The tuition is much cheaper for OOS students as well.
IU is not very selective, but - the Kelley school itself is.
The Kelley LLC is the living learning community where the Kelley students live together.
Kelley is in McNutt, and McNutt has a rep for being a “party” dorm.
The Honors dorm is simply the Hutton Honors LLC where Honors students from across many majors live together.
If you are over 21, you can live in a graduate dorm, and those are much, much quieter.
Another option is to get a single room in any dorm…
It is true that Indiana is a fairly conservative state, but Bloomington (as well as West Lafayette and Muncie, the other two college towns) are nothing like the rest of Indiana. They are college towns, albeit small ones, and the culture in those towns reflect the universities’ cultures…
Just to clarity - I meant to say public schools have mostly in-state students. Yes, there is a good percentage of OOS but generally due to in-state tuition being lower you would have more in-state. I don’t know if IU has reciprocal tuition policies but UMN-TC does with several states including Wisconsin and the Dakotas.
Again, if STEM is important to you, IU is generally not a STEM school whereas UMN-TC has a very good STEM reputation. Hence, it may attract more technology oriented companies. That’s just my guess.
IU does not have reciprocal policies with other states, as far as I know. Nor does Purdue.
I agree, Purdue and U MN-TC are the better choice for STEM between the three. Imho, anyway…
IU is good for Business, yes - but a degree in MIS would look good from Purdue and UMN as well.
Thanks for the suggestion guys. Certainly the choice is clearer now that minnesota would be a better option for me. How are the dorms in minnesota?
Housing applications are prioritized based on date of application. At UMN it costs only $25 to apply. At IU I believe it was $200 and we may have gotten $100 back. The best options at UMN go quickly so you want to get your application in asap . You can change your order of preference around until mid-May(I think - check the date for this year) You will be notified of your housing selection in July - possibly earlier if you list an learning and living community as a priority option. I’m not certain what dates are for the housing applications. You can get all the housing info on the university’s website.
The nicest dorm is the newest -17th street - but chances of getting in are slim. My son is enjoying his single in Centennial Hall (nearly all the rooms in this building are single so only apply here if that’s what you want). Territorial is the party dorm and all freshman - great for making friends but it will be noisier. Frontier is another good option on the east bank. Pioneer is okay but does not have air conditioning. Middlebrook on the west bank would be convenient to Carlson but farther from the rest of student activities - it is a bit nicer than superblock (Territorial, Frontier, Pioneer, Centennial) with purportedly better food. In general the food is not too good at UMN (that’s the biggest downside) but since you are in a city it is easy to get some good, inexpensive alternatives for a break. Most students seem to prefer off-campus housing after the first year.
Except for some ritzy private universities, a freshman dorm is a freshman dorm is a freshman dorm.
Ok. Thanks singermom and beadare for answering my queries. If I have more I would surely get back to you guys
Kelley is ranked 8th in the country in MIS.
Yeah I know that. But carlson (minnesota) is ranked 3rd. Also I may change my course after 1st yar so I need to look at ranking in finance, accounts, management and marketing in which case kelley seems to be doing better. Also kelley is better suited to me climatewise but minnesota us in urban setting with equally good placement and more competitive environment (preferred). So I am kind of in a mix!! Dont know which to take. Jpamsel if you have any new info to add that could make my choices clear then please share the information.