Pure Numbers for Kelley

<p>Talked to the undergratuate business chair at Kelley at our sophomore block reunion, got a few statistics to share:</p>

<p>Dunno if this is last year's class or this year's:</p>

<p>600 direct Admits
3600 total applicants to the business school (including direct admits)
3000 total applicants (w/o direct admints)
600 admitted from general pool of 3000</p>

<p>Size of B-School class: 1200 each year (strict limit)</p>

<p>Do the Math. 1 out of 5 get in. I'd say A100, A201, A202, K201 did its job well :)</p>

<p>Apparently, 3.0 isn't a guarantee to get in anymore. The incoming classes are just getting bigger and bigger.</p>

<p>The thing I hate about the regular Kelley admission process is the fact that there is so much ambiguity about admission statistics. Being in the process of admission myself, I have heard many things. One KSB official said that the admissions office "looks for Bs". Another told me there is no limit to the number of people admitted, provided that the people who apply meet the B average standard. Now, in the same school year, I am hearing that regular admission standards are downright brutal for many. Don't get me wrong, I ended last semester with a 3.57, but I will probably receive only a 3.1/3.2 this semester due to a harder course load. Thus, it is plain to see why one might have anxiety, when the bulletin often notes that "students with grades below a B are usually not admitted". So that's to say if someone gets a single B- they are unfit to attend the institution?</p>

<p>Then again, I've heard of people with a couple Cs and/or a D getting into KSB. So who can truly say for sure what the actual admission statistics are? It's amazing how nobody seems to know for sure.</p>

<p>nice damitssam, i think that's for the '10 class since I think my class '11 had 700 DA, but who knows</p>

<p>Well, I agree with Waverian that it would be nice to know the actual numbers for sure. As to why the Kelley school doesn't publish the exact number, who knows the reason?--Certainly not me.</p>

<p>I estimated the direct admits at 260 a year ago, and an admit rate for non-direct admits at 28%, with 890 being admitted from the non-direct admit group (for a 1,150 person Kelley class per year)
( <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/462346-kelley-standard-admission.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/462346-kelley-standard-admission.html&lt;/a> ) </p>

<p>According to dammitsam's comments, the admit rate is 600 direct admits and 600 non-direct admits, and a non-direct admit rate of 20%--at least according to the person dammitsam talked to. This would appear to corroberate the comments made recently suggesting that the number of direct admits being admitted and attending the school has been increasing significantly (and thus reducing the numbers of spots available to non-direct admits). (Of course, I would still not consider these numbers as necessarily totally accurate until Kelley actually publishes them).</p>

<p>Dammitsam and Waverian bring up a good point, though: If the non-direct admit spots are being reduced, does that mean that the admissions criteria for non-direct admit candidates will go up? It has always been true that you just needed a 3.0 or 3.1 GPA overall to get into the school, but if spots are limited, it may soon be true that the average needed will go up--and that one low grade (below a B) could prevent someone from getting admitted.</p>

<p>My guess is these days may be coming, but they are not here yet. And if next year is the top year of applicants nationwide (which it is likely to be according to census statistics), then the business school getting that restrictive is unlikely to happen for at least another 5 years--and then only if the school gets more popular that it already is now.</p>

<p>What shocks me really is how only 20% of the applicants can get the required GPA to get into the b-school.</p>

<p>Think I'll bump this for those who didn't see it--especially any interested incoming freshmen or their parents.</p>

<p>damitssam, where did you get the 20% number?</p>

<p>And yah, judging from the facebook group on 2012,
there are a lot of....party people haha. I can actually
see why it's that low :P. I'm sure higher admission
standards will come, as I see this school as an up
and coming one. I just hope that it happens after I
get into the business school :)</p>

<p>And if that stat your contact says is true, then of the
people with the met criteria for GPA (3.0) have a 83%
chance of getting into the business school right?
(600/720=83%)</p>

<p>(720 is 20% of 3600. Soo...20% of the applicants actually
have a 3.0)</p>

<p>Wavarian... you will get in.. i guarnette you 100 %</p>

<p>if you work hard..try your best you will get in.</p>

<p>...what if your best just isn't good enough?
HAHAHAH :) sorry, i digress. That's my low
self esteem talking.</p>

<p>radronOmega,</p>

<p>Yeah, I think you got it right. As long as you can get the 3.0, then you are about 83% to get in--even higher as long as you are also 3.0 in the "core" classes they require. That's the key: get 3.0 in both of these and have some ECs showing that you are trying to be an active Kelley business student who wants to excel outside of the classroom also. </p>

<p>I'd say anyone who can do those three things (which probably means also staying away from too much partying which prevents doing them) is very likely to be admitted to Kelley if they apply.</p>

<p>I'm slightly more confident that I'll get in now after this past summer session. My GPA for this past session was a 3.43, and these are my grades:</p>

<p>MATH K310 A+
BUS A100 A
BUS G202 C+</p>

<p>My cumulative is a 3.28 over 41 credit hours. Out of the 14 classes I've taken, I have 4 poor grades (3 B- and the C+) and 10 good grades (1 A+, 1 A, 4 A-, 3 B+, 1 B).</p>

<p>For the application ECs I did some grant fund management for my family foundation and participated in the undergraduate finance club. I also indicated interest in Civic Leadership Development (the volunteering club of Kelley).</p>

<p>My essay on CSR (the topic of discussion on the application essay) was very strong, though not much has been said about the importance of the essay.</p>

<p>My underlying feeling is that I will be admitted but I'm making a "plan B" in case I fall short of my expectations. Hopefully the adcoms are as confident in me as 1ee304 is. :)</p>

<p>wavarian you got this with flying colors bro... your plan B.... there is no such thing as PLAN B for you in this situation.</p>

<p>I am takin G202 the fall semester.... how was it ? ,,, and any recommendationsor tips</p>

<p>In actuality, G202 seems to be easier in the regular fall and spring semesters. Generally speaking, if you did well in E201, you'll do great in G202. It is supposedly one of the easiest I-core prereqs but for some reason I didn't do very well on the final despite having a B+ in the class up until that point. I thought I did very well on the final but somehow my score was low. </p>

<p>The key point in G202 is to keep up with the readings. Obviously if you're required to read the same text that I did in the summer session, you will have a much easier time keeping up with the readings since you have more time in regular semesters. Overall I wouldn't worry too much about this class.</p>

<p>Any subjects for the pre-req is easy, except for L201 and E370.
Before Icore, brush up your E370. otherwise you will suffer during your Icore.</p>

<p>to all the current IU/Kelley students how hard is it to actually get a decent grade in Indiana...B ~ A...compared to high school.. an alumni (07) from my school (and i went to a fairly rigorous international school) ended up with a 3.8 cumulative while having a mediocre GPA in HS ..about a 3.0</p>

<p>your friend must have studied alot harder at college then in HS.... in order to get a 3.7 or higher you realy have to study alot during the weekdays.. if you pace yourself you dont have to pull allnighters but you have to study alot on the weekdays and you only realy have like 1-2 hrs of freetime during the weekdays and you cant party every friday and saturday night.. also you have to study on sundays</p>

<p>you only have 1-2 hrs of freetime during the weekdays.. if you want 7-8 hours of sleep I should say</p>