<p>You link also show that </p>
<p>Philosophy Penn 26th
[NRC</a> Rankings in Each of 41 Areas](<a href=“NRC Rankings in Each of 41 Areas”>NRC Rankings in Each of 41 Areas)</p>
<p>Biochem 16th
Cell Bio 22nd
Ecol 14th
Genetics/Moleculsr 19th
Chemistry 25th
German 16th
Geoscience 75th LOL LOL LOL LOL </p>
<p>what a joke</p>
<p>^ 15 departments among the top 10 in the nation, and another 10 departments among the top 20 in the nation, isn’t exactly a joke (count 'em up in those NRC rankings).</p>
<p>Unless, of course, you have a pretty bizarre sense of humor. Or a massive anti-Penn ax to grind.</p>
<p>Which of those applies to you? ;)</p>
<p>my counding shows that
6-7 departments are at rank #5-10 range,
10 departmetnsat rankd #10-20 range
7-9 departemenst art #20-30 range (geoscience is #75)</p>
<p>The average rank is about #20. </p>
<p>Especially almost all sciences are ranked at #20-30 and #75</p>
<p>LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL</p>
<p>^ 15 Penn programs ranked by the NRC in the top 10:</p>
<p>Art History
English
French
Linguistics
Music
Religion
Spanish
Neurosciences
Pharmacology
Physiology
Biomedical Engineering
Materials Science
Anthropology
Economics
Psychology</p>
<p>Now take your ■■■■■ activity back to the Princeton and Columbia forums, because it has become quite tiresome here. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Sorry but
Neurosciences, Pharagology, Physilogy are in Med School not in CAS
Biomedical Engineering, Matericals Science are in Engineering School not CAS</p>
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<p>I can’t speak to german_car’s sense of humor but his posts sure make me laugh.</p>
<p>All CAS departments can be found at
[School</a> of Arts&Sciences - University of Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://www.sas.upenn.edu/home/departments/depts.html]School”>http://www.sas.upenn.edu/home/departments/depts.html)</p>
<p>Anthropology #6
Biology #22-25
Chemistry #25
Classical Studies #13
Criminology<br>
Earth and Environmental Science # Geoscience #75 LOL LOL LOL
East Asian Languages & Civilizations
Economics #9
English #8
Germanic Languages and Literatures #16
History #12
History and Sociology of Science
History of Art #9
Linguistics #5
Mathematics #22
Music #7
Near Eastern Languages & Civilizations
Philosophy #26
Physics and Astronomy #17
Political Science #42 <br>
Psychology #8
Religious Studies #10
Romance Languages
Slavic Languages and Literatures
Sociology #11
South Asia Studies </p>
<p>Summary of Science Ranking</p>
<p>Biology #22-25
Chemistry #25
Physics and Astronomy #17
Mathematics #22
Earth and Environmental Science # #75 LOL</p>
<p>german_car, I am sorry Penn rejected you. I suppose I’d be angry as well. Perhaps one day you’ll find a purpose in life. Until then, good luck.</p>
<p>Yeah I don’t care about rankings. One thing I’ve figured out that rankings are such bull***** - if it’s in the top 25, then I consider it one of the best. Top 50 = still really good.</p>
<p>I just care about reputation for quality instruction and research/work.</p>
<p>@german_car the fact that a handful of programs are ranked low on the list doesn’t condemn the whole school. Penn (all schools) is still really awesome and you can’t deny it.</p>
<p>german_car’s comments are irrelevant. No university, not even Stanford nor Harvard, has universally stellar departments. What matters in overall reputation is the relative ranking of departments: Penn has more top-ranked departments than almost every university except for a handful: Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley… that may be it. It comes very close to Columbia and Yale, although they may come out ahead. I’m not sure. If I weren’t tired, I would compare HYPSM, Penn and Columbia across the most popular schools/departments: psychology, English, history, neuroscience, economics and bio.</p>
<p>What was the original argument? Yes, Wharton’s supremacy is unchecked whereas CAS is still “only” elite in the most popular areas, though not all of them. It’s true. In 10 years, when the capital campaign’s fruits have been harvested and our endowment matches MIT/Princeton, we can re-assess.</p>
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I think it’s a bit unrealistic to anticipate that Penn’s endowent will match MIT’s or Princeton’s in 10 years. The capital campaign is targeted to add $1.75 billion to endowment ([Goals</a> At A Glance | Penn : Making History](<a href=“http://www.makinghistory.upenn.edu/goals]Goals”>http://www.makinghistory.upenn.edu/goals)), and as of the close of FY 2009, MIT’s endowment was about $3 billion larger than Penn’s, while Princeton’s was about $7.5 billion larger ([List</a> of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment]List”>List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia)). Especially given that a portion of the capital campaign funds have already been added into the endowment value, it’s not likely that Penn’s endowment will match either MIT’s or Princeton’s within 10 years or, for that matter, within the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>If Penn does fulfill the Gutmann vision of ascending from overall “excellence to eminence,” it won’t be based on the relative size of endowments. As Penn likes to point out, it has always done “more with less” on the endowment front (e.g., it’s operating budget has actually survived the latest economic downturn much better than those of its better endowed peers). And the expectation is that continuing in that tradition, Penn will be able to compete even more effectively with its top peers when it has a larger endowment, albeit one that isn’t as large as theirs.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/870550-ivy-undergrad-ranking-yale-law.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/870550-ivy-undergrad-ranking-yale-law.html</a></p>
<p>Don’t take german_car seriously.</p>
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I’d never even heard of the kid until today. Honestly, the kid lost me at “LOL” (x 15 or so)</p>
<h2>cue7 wrote: “My argument here is that, if you compare Univ of Chicago to Yale or Princeton in the NRC rankings, the schools actually compare quite favorably. Moreover, while Yale and Princeton are undoubtedly more selective, the gap has closed of late (Y and P should be around a 7% accept rate this year, Chicago will be around 19%). Nevertheless, it is my contention that there is NO COMPARISON between HYP and Chicago. It’s not even close”</h2>
<p>Where is your argument? You cite published rankings affirming that Chicago is compable to Yale, Princeton. [at this point, as the reader, I am waiting for the counterargument]. You proceed to simply give your OPINION that they are not comparable. WHERE IS THE ARGUMENT?</p>