@skieurope. Do you Camilla be called Queen Camilla the same as the Queen Mother when she was the consort. I know technically she is not a “Queen”, anymore than Diana was really to be called “Princess Diana”.
I’m sure she is a nice person from everything I’ve read, and a good wife to Charles. But I’m pro-Diana, and just can’t seem to forgive for that. It makes my skin crawl that she will be known as Queen Camilla. I imagine Harry feels the same, especially when he has to nod his head to her.
I was pro Diana too, and still can’t accept Camilla. Doesn’t Harry have to bow to Camilla now?
From a protocol standpoint, until the Palace says otherwise, Camilla is referred to as 'The Queen," which is the same as the Queen Mother, Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, etc were referred to when they were Queens Consort.
For a short period of time, I suspect media will refer to her as the Queen Consort to avoid confusion and ambiguity, but that will wane.
Yup. Technically, everyone other than Charles does.
Not to veer too far off topic, but Charles is the one who cheated on Diana.
As an aside, I nearly spit out my coffee when Charles said this yesterday:
The role and the duties of monarchy also remain, as does the sovereign’s particular relationship and responsibility towards the Church of England – the church in which my own faith is so deeply rooted.
Princess Diana passed away 25 years ago. King Charles seems very happy with his Queen and I wish them great happiness.
I’m a Brit living in the US, my mom is sick and I’m leaving for London today and will be there during the Queens mourning period. I’m actually sadder with her passing than I thought I would be.
Sorry to hear about your mom. Safe travels and all the best to you and your mom.
I feel sad too about the Queen. Good to see William and Kate and Harry and Meghan together today.
You are far nicer than I!
That’s true. Camilla only cheated on her own husband, and father of her children. What a sterling character 
.
@Joblue Andrew Parker Bowles had numerous affairs while married to Camilla. He was a serial philanderer.
If Charles had be allowed to marry Camilla in the beginning none of this would have happened. However, he had to marry a virgin. Camilla wasn’t. He has always loved Camilla.
The Queen was able to marry who she wanted. So, too, was William and Harry. Poor Charles wasn’t.
And let’s not forget that Diana had affairs while married to Charles. So none of these 4 are exactly paragons of virtue.
But, he was a 32 year old grown up man. He could have said no.
I don’t think she would have had affairs if he hadn’t behaved the way he did.
When I was a toddler, Skimom always said “He started it” was never an acceptable excuse, so I’m not viewing that as a defense for adultery.
None of us know all the details, but it seems to me that nobody in that situation can be considered blameless. There was dysfunction all around.
Charles could have married Camilla if he had wanted to, regardless of what his parents said. Elizabeth’s family did not want her to marry Phillip (who was considered unsuitable) but at 18 years old, she insisted and married who she wanted. Charles on the other hand, left Camilla without proposing to serve in the navy and she quickly returned to Andrew Parker Bowles and married him. I really wish people would stop repeating that myth about Charles not being allowed to marry Camilla when they were both single. It’s just not true.
Instead, as a man in his thirties, he chose to dupe a naive 19 year old into thinking she was entering a real marriage, while proclaiming his devotion to his married girlfriend behind her back. There’s no way to spin that into a tragedy for anyone but Diana.
Maybe his character has improved since then (personally doubt it) but he demonstrated nothing but weakness and selfishness in his first marriage. Nothing Diana could have done would have changed that.
I just don’t agree. I really think how he behaved set the tone and demise of the entire marriage.
Per something I read last night, Charles was encouraged by Lord Mountbatten to remain single while in the Navy and sow his wild oats or whatever. Camilla married in the meantime. It set Diana up for tragedy, but also heroism as she changed the Royal family though her courageous charity work for AIDS patients and others.
Adultery is as old as human history, awful for those subjected to it (as I have been), but decades pass and events move along as maturity and hopefully better judgement is gained.
As my grandmother was Scottish, and I spent a good bit of time in Scotland with her years ago, I am saddened at the passing of the Queen. She is part of my earliest memories from my grandmother.
I actually forgave them all, the heart has its reason which reason knows nothing.
Yesterday, my husband and I laid some flowers at Green Park, the place was so crowded, unbelievable. I waited for half an hour in front of Buckingham Palace to catch a glimpse of something. But after 2 people fainted, I said enough was enough, we left.
Here is a picture of flowers from the tree we laid some flowers.
