Question about AP credit at Pratt

<p>I was on this page: <a href="http://www.mems.duke.edu/undergrad/bse-degree-planning%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mems.duke.edu/undergrad/bse-degree-planning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and I was looking at the downloadable check sheet where it said that there was a limit of 2 APs for the Humanities and Social Sciences credits. Does anyone know which AP tests count for the H/SS category? Thanks.</p>

<p>Pretty much anything that’s not in the science/math category. </p>

<p>There are too many AP tests to list them all but foreign languages, English, history, econ, art, government are all considered humanities.</p>

<p>Cool. So since I’ve received a 4/5 on the English Language & Composition and US History exams, I would only have to take 3 H/SS classes to fulfill the requirement?</p>

<p>Sure, as long as you satisfy the whole </p>

<ul>
<li>the 5 courses together must cover 3 of the 4 areas of knowledge (ALP, CZ, FL, SS)</li>
<li>1 of the 5 must be SS</li>
<li>2 of the 5 must come from the same department with 1 of the 2 being 200+ level</li>
<li>all 5 must be humanities.</li>
</ul>

<p>AP US Hist technically gives credit for two courses (Hist 23 and 24) but I guess only one will count towards graduation. I had the exact same two AP credit as well when I entered Pratt, funny.</p>

<p>Note that all Duke courses in which you qualify for AP credit will show up on your transcript, so even if only 2 SS/Humanities count towards the graduation requirement, I’d still encourage you to take any other AP tests that you were planning to take since you’ll at least get official acknowledgement of them on the Duke transcript (assuming Duke takes the credit based on the subject and score, of course). Perhaps you already knew that, but just thought I’d mention it.</p>

<p>Bluedog - can you explain that a little more? If a student took both English AP’s, would those both show up on the transcript? Also, what categories are Art History and Environmental Science? (Does this really count as “science”?) I know I could just go look it up… :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Any opinions on physics? My son has not had a great physics teacher this year and is thinking of not taking the two tests (Electricity and Magnetism, Mechanics). He could probably study a bunch and do OK… But then would it still be beneficial to take the first physics course in Pratt anyway?</p>

<p>my3gr8boyz - yes, if somebody takes both English APs, they both show up on the transcript. I did just that and got credit for English 20 and English 29, which are not actually Duke courses that are offered - they’re simply used for AP placeholders (looks like the numbers are now 20 and 22). They are listed with descriptions of Literature & Composition and Composition & Language, both with 1.0 credit earned and a grade of “AP.” In Pratt, you actually DO get credit for ALL AP courses to count towards the necessary 34 credits to graduate. The limitation of 2 SS/Humanities courses is simply in fulfillment of the 5 SS/H course requirement, but you still technically get “credit” for everything (again, this is Pratt only as Trinity does have a 2 AP limit, although I’m not 100% sure if APs in excess of two still show up on the transcript or not with perhaps a 0.0 credit).</p>

<p>You can see what course credit one would get for Art History and Environmental Science AP courses here:
[Advanced</a> Placement Credits, International Placement Credit | Duke Pratt School of Engineering](<a href=“http://www.pratt.duke.edu/undergrad/policies/3483]Advanced”>Undergrad Policy: Advanced Placement Credits, International Placement Credit | Duke Pratt School of Engineering)</p>

<p>Even if you don’t necessarily get “credit,” you can always use the AP test for placement if you’d like. As for Physics, I’d recommend just taking the test. What does your son have to lose? Getting a good score will just increase his flexibility and a bad score doesn’t hurt him in any way. He doesn’t have to place out of anything if he doesn’t want to. The physics department is a little bit more stringent with AP credit as I recall (especially for Pratt students) - they used to require you to pass the AP AND take a physics exam when you arrived, but they may have relaxed that policy. But, worse comes to worse, it’s just good practice to take exams. If he gets a bad score, it’s not like Duke or other colleges will care at that point.</p>

<p>Hope that helps!</p>

<p>So what’s the benefit of having the other APs show up on the transcript? For me, I may or may not take Macroeconomics, English Lit., and US Gov. I don’t really think I’d be using any of those for placement.</p>

<p>Bluedog - thanks so much! I guess the answer to “what do you have to lose by taking the AP test” is : $87! :smiley: In the grand scheme of things, if he did well enough for a course credit to be listed on the transcript, that would be worth it. The AP score itself is not listed, right? Just the credit received? And I can check the website on if 4’s are good enough? He hasn’t gotten 4’s yet, but he’s got a bit of senioritis this year! (The ED acceptance was not good for him on that front… :wink: )</p>

<p>@metaphysicize: why does there have to be a benefit? It’s a way for the registrar to officially record something and since a transcript is a complete record of all courses attempted/credited why shouldn’t APs be listed?</p>

<p>As for benefits, just because Duke doesn’t give credit doesn’t mean it’s useless down the line. I do know that for the medical school application, in order for any course or credit to count, it must appear on the transcript. So since AP credits are on there, they are permitted to be listed on the college courses you submit on your application. That’s just one example.</p>

<p>Ok, thanks for clarifying.</p>

<p>my3, you are correct that the AP score itself is not listed on the Duke transcript, so no.worries if they’re not all 5s. ;)</p>