<p>I am planning to go back to college for 2 years to get an online management degree with the school I got my first degree from so that it will be easy to add to my Associates degree (basically it will turn that degree into a Bachelor's degree). The thing is I no longer live in that state (although I still own a house there). I don't see why I have to pay out of state tuition when this in an online program! I am wondering if on the application I can put my father's address as he has the same name as I do (and still lives in that state)? Do you think it would cause any issues? If they would find out, what would be the worst case scenerio? I am thinking the only thing that would throw a red flag is my tax info shows me working in NC, but considering I still own a house there and only rent here, could I argue that I am a resident of both states? Maybe say that I'm working here temporarily (even though it's been for several years). Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Each state’s residency rules differ.</p>
<p>If you’re planning to do something dishonest (not saying that you are, but just in case), then you probably won’t get a lot of help or sympathy around here.</p>
<p>If you are under 24 your residency is most likely determined by your parents’ residency. You need to call the school to find out for sure.</p>
<p>It sounds like you’re well beyond age 24, so you’re a resident of where you’re living…even if you own a home in the state where the school is located.</p>
<p>Re: Tax info? Are you applying for aid from the school? If you’re not applying for aid, you don’t send in tax info. What aid can you expect to get? It sounds like you work full time and maybe earn too much (and own a house with value) to qualify for any aid beyond an unsub loan? Do you need an unsub fed loan? </p>
<p>Do you realize that the house you own will count as an asset since you don’t live in it. And, if you rent that house out, you have to declare the rental income.</p>
<p>My age is 36, and the school is in PA. And yes, I know this is “dishonest” to put my fathers address as my own, but why should I pay so much more for tuition just because I moved to another state?? And since it’s an online course, that even boggles my mind more that they would want to charge me out of state tuition, why the heck would it matter where I live since I won’t be setting foot in their classrooms or using their facilities anyway?? I can’t afford the out of state tuition rates, so it’s either I lie about my address, or I don’t go back to school. Sad that it comes down to that, but unfortunately it does.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that part of applying for this school I had to apply for aid regardless of if I was going to get it or not. But I am probably wrong on this, and I was probably just reading the info geared to high school grads, which assumes that they will all be applying for aid. So assuming they won’t be needing my tax info, then maybe I can put my home in PA as my residence? Or at least my father’s home since I no longer get mail at my PA house (it is rented out).</p>
<p>If you own a house there why not move back?</p>
<p>I doubt that ANY school requires anyone to apply for aid. I’ve never heard of a school that REQUIRES someone to apply for aid or to submit a FAFSA. We’ve never submitted a FAFSA or applied for aid at any of the schools that my kids applied to. </p>
<p>Do you think Bill Gates’ kids would have to apply for aid at your school? lol…I doubt it. </p>
<p>I highly doubt your school REQUIRES you to apply for aid…even if you were a high school kid.</p>
<p>What school is this?</p>
<p>The reason why you cannot apply for in-state tuition is because in-state tuition is subsidized by either income taxes or sales taxes of its residents. Since you don’t live there, your taxes do not subsidize that tuition, hence non-resident rates.</p>
<p>Did you look for options in the state you are in now?</p>
<p>The problem with going to school in the state where I currently live is I cannot easily add it to the degree I already have. I went to school at Penn College and they have these 2+2 programs where the first 2 years is an associates tech degree, the second 2 years is management, they combine them as a tech management bachelor’s degree. And I can’t move back to PA because there are no jobs in PA, which is why I moved in the first place.</p>
<p>I don’t see anywhere on that college’s website that requires a student to apply for FA. </p>
<p>Frankly, I don’t think it’s even legal for a state school to REQUIRE someone to apply for FA. That means that they are REQUIRING you to provide personal financial info…and that should never be a req’t at least at a public univ. If you don’t want/need aid, they have no right to your financial info.</p>
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<p>Why should the taxpayers of Pennsylvania pay to subsidize the education of someone who doesn’t live there just because he used to live there?</p>
<p>Hey, I used to live in Pennsylvania (1949-66). Maybe I can get some free money from the state. Y’think? Then I could apply to New Jersey, and California, and Virginia, and Wisconsin too!</p>
<p>I’ve lived in thirteen different states. So by your reasoning OP I should get in-state tuition at all of them because I lived there once? </p>
<p>You being dishonest and you know. The fact that you say you can’t afford the OOS tutition is not justification for fraud. I can’t afford a Ferrari. Does that make it ok to steal it?</p>
<p>I looked through the entire application and all it asks for is legal address, and since I do own a house there, and I do pay taxes there, I think I am good on that end. The only question I have is do they at any point require proof that you are actually a legal resident of a state? If so, what do they require? I do pay a few bills on that house, would that suffice? And I don’t care to hear about how I am being dishonest and what I am doing is akin to stealing a Ferrari! For one, I do pay taxes in that state (yearly property taxes), and secondly if I had the ability to work there I would still live there. Besides, I’d say at least half the kids going into college never worked a day in their lives, therefore have never paid a dime in taxes to the state, and since there are no jobs to be had won’t be sticking around once they graduate, so your argument about paying income taxes to get in state tuition the honest way is bull crap in my opinion.</p>
<p>I think they will ask for some proof. When I moved to US and applied to local flagship, there was a question about my residency, although I did not know that a time. We have a different educational system in the country I was born.</p>
<p>I was first asked about when and how we moved to US by someone at the admission office. I was also asked how I support myself. It had nothing to do with financial aid. </p>
<p>Then, when I was registering, I was presented with the tuition bill that gave me almost a heart attack. It was OOS tuition bill. I began hyperventilating and I believe I raised my voice (I was almost crying). Somebody took a look and told me that I was supposed to fill out some kind of paper work and then after I filled that out, they gave me a different tuition bill.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point of my story is that I had in-state address. My parents had in-state address. Yet, there was still a question about my residency. That question was raised even before financial aid was discussed.</p>
<p>P.S. My refugee status granted me in-state tuition rights, because according to the definition of my school, to be considered resident you had to move to the state to live and work there (and not because of that particular school).</p>
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Owning a house in PA does not make you a resident. It is where you actually live that determines that.</p>
<p>You are not instate for tuition purposes. But you already know all this. I am not sure what you expect anyone here to tell you.</p>
<p>Worst that can happen? Kicked out of the school with no reimbursement of tuition. Charged with fraud. Looking at yourself in the mirror every day and feeling guilty.</p>
<p>You are not a legal resident of Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>If you own a house in PA, and you vote in PA, and have your driver’s license in PA, bank in PA, file income taxes with your PA address, you may be able to talk to the residency people about the fact that you are out of PA more than their minimum requirements- most states ask if you are out of state more than a certain number of weeks. Some people do, in fact, work in other states and maintain their residency in their home state. That might be workable.</p>
<p>But if you left PA years ago and your only tie is the old house which is rented out and if you cut all other ties, then no, you don’t qualify.</p>
<p>Well I guess I’m not going back to school then, because there is no way I can afford to pay out of state rape charges. It would be a different story if I wasn’t a full time single dad, but I’m only capaple of working so many hours in a week, and I can’t get a better job until I get a bachelor’s degree, so it’s a really lovely catch 22.</p>
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<p>I’d say neither of these are true. For one, you don’t just pay taxes on what you earn…</p>