Question regarding Out of state tuition...

<p>My aunt says that for out of state tuition you only need to pay extra for your first year. If you stay there the other three then you only pay in-state tuition since that state becomes your home one.</p>

<p>true/false?</p>

<p>thx in advance</p>

<p>Well, you can acually move to the state (buy an apartment), declare residency, and then pay in-state tuition.</p>

<p>But no, you can't declare residency just by going to school there full time.</p>

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Well, you can acually move to the state (buy an apartment), declare residency, and then pay in-state tuition.

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<p>In most cases this is not true becasue most states require that you reside atleast 12 months before beginning college to be declared an in-state resident. Some states specifically state that they will not grant you in-state if you purchase a home after being admitted. </p>

<p>college board guide to determining in-state residency</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/residency.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/residency.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Sorry to hijack. Sybbie you seem to know a lot about this. For in state tuition, I looked at the requirements for residency. My brother is looking at a few state schools in NC. We haven't lived there for 3 years, but we own a large business there and a home, and therefore pay significant taxes. Could we still qualify for in state tuition. We also have driver's licenses from there and still vote from there. Just wondering.</p>

<p>So you can't buy an apartment in the state, live there and work over the summer, and sophomore year start paying in-state rates?</p>

<p>I thought you could do this at some schools. I mean, you're living there for a year (1/2 a year in the dorms, the other 1/2 in the apartment). Could you do this after your sophomore year?</p>

<p>Buying an apartment may not be enough because now it is not unusual for parents to purchase an apartment for their students (as investment income) instead of paying room fees especially in an area where one could get a reasonably good deal on real estate.</p>

<p>scarlet,</p>

<p>here is the link for NC (about 3 pages)</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/pdf/sr_NC01.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/pdf/sr_NC01.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>it states</p>

<p>***For persons who have lived in North Carolina for less than five consecutive years, the domicile of their parents or legal guardian is prima facie evidence of the individuals’ domicile, regardless of their age. **This evidence, however, may be reinforced or rebutted by other evidence of age and general circumstances.</p>

<p>Minors (those under 18 years of age) assume the domicile of their parents or guardian. If one parent is deceased, the minor's domicile is that of the surviving parent. Minors with legally separated or divorced parents assume the domicile of the parent with legal custody or, if no custody has been awarded, that of the parent with whom they live. </p>

<p>Minors who turn 18 before they enroll at a NC institution of higher education and who would have qualified for in-state status based on the circumstances of their parents/legal guardians or caretakers as outlined above shall not lose the benefit of in-state status if they act in a manner consistent with bona fide NC legal residence (showing intent to maintain domicile in North Carolina and nowhere else) and begin enrollment no later than the fall academic term following their completion of the educational prerequisites (e.g., high school graduation).</p>

<p>If your parent's primary residence ( I would gather because they have a home a business and pay taxes in NC) in NC even though they have
lived there less than 5 years, if your brother is a minor and living with your parents, he would be considered a NC resident and granted instate tuition.</p>

<p>sybbie:</p>

<p>I live in California. Never lived in Indiana, but I may be going to Purdue next year. Can you help me understand what the CB means? Will I have to pay out-of-state tuition all 4 years?</p>

<p>OK, you need to live in a state for an extended period of time (i forgot how many years) and also you need to apply for citizenship at that state, which you can do legally if your parents refute claims of you. Basically, be an orphan and you can be a citizen at whatever state u want.</p>

<p>Regarding Indiana state residency:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/pdf/sr_IN01.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/about/association/international/pdf/sr_IN01.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Requirements for Resident Classification: To qualify as a resident student for fee purposes at the institutions surveyed in Indiana, an individual must reside there for twelve continuous months prior to the first day of classes. However, an individual's presence in Indiana for the main purpose of attending a college or university may not be counted in the 12-month period.</p>

<p>Vagrant, You most likely will have to pay full tuition for all 4 years at Purdue</p>

<p>AASSDDFF</p>

<p>You do not apply for citizenship, you would apply for residency which you cannot do as a minor unless you are emancipated by the courts.</p>

<p>Your Aunt , in her days , this kind of thing with out-of-state residency was done ( in the 60's , maybe 70's ) but it's no longer .................</p>

<p>it might help if you understand the reasoning behind the in-state/out-of-state classification.</p>

<p>Each individual state supplies money for their state universities/colleges/etc. The state taxes paid by residents go toward subsidizing these school. If you or your parents are not residents of the state, they have not been paying the state taxes and therefore have not been subsidizing the schools -- therefore, you pay out-of-state tuition.</p>

<p>This is reason behind the requirement to live there BEFORE you go to school -- you (or your parents) need to be a productive, taxpaying resident of the state -- not just a college student who picks up a part-time job. And they also want you to be someone who will most likely continue to live in the state AFTER you graduate and pay them more taxes. </p>

<p>Both the in-state and out-of-state student have paid above and beyond the stated tuition rates of the school -- it is just that parents of the in-state student have been paying it in their state taxes for years and the out-of-state student will pay it with the tuition.</p>

<p>States are getting very, very picky about this classification and it is really difficult to get in-state tuition without extraordinary circumstances. things like married and with a child (not just married anymore), military service, death of both parents, etc. even emancipation for minors will not automatically mean independent status and ability to declare state residency -- you will have to prove that it was for a significant reason other than to help you get financial aid.</p>

<p>If you can't afford the cost of out-of-state tuition and you don't get a good financial aid package, you really need to consider looking elsewhere.</p>

<p>They do check for validation on people that claim in-state tuition and if they think you manipulated the system, they will charge you for any semester you didn't pay correctly. They do check things like voter registration, driver's license, state taxes, etc.</p>

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<p>Short answer...YES.</p>

<p>I know for Wisconsin residency status, you must prove that you didn't move to WI solely for educational purposes. Even if you pick up a part-time job, the committee who reviews your info will see through your intentions.</p>

<p>Yea, my family has a house just outside of Wrightsville Beach (it's technically in Wilmington) and there wasn't any way I could have been granted a resident. That is a bit unfair IMO, because we are paying taxes to the state which funds the schools, but I don't think I'd be happy at any of the UNC schools anyway. I could have been granted residency if I lived at my townhouse and went to UNCW for my freshman year. For my sophomore year I would have been granted residency.</p>

<p>I know. Taxes support the schools. If you pay taxes, especially a significant amount, why shouldn't you be able to attend the schools for in state rate.</p>

<p>And an in state admissions rate (ie: UNC-CH is like 9% OOS)</p>

<p>It does seem like property ownership should count toward in-state residency, but you are forgetting that you do not pay state income taxes nor sales tax, both of which usually make up a big portion of the state coffers -- that is why.</p>

<p>Personally, I wish more states had inter-state agreements, where X number of kids from each state could get in-state tuition in exchange for the same treatment at that state's school.</p>

<p>Geographic diversity is really a good thing and so is going away from home to do some growing up during the college years. But out-of-state tuition makes going out-of-state for college just as financially unreachable as the ivy leagues -- and so it takes that opportunity away from most kids. </p>

<p>Here in Colorado at UCCS, out of state tuition is approx. $13,000 per semester. Add in travel, room and board, books, etc and you have a school that could cost someone from out of state $35,000+</p>

<p>that is just my 2 cents!</p>

<p>Well, I guess I don't like it because I'm partially jealous of the UC and UNC school systems. New Jersey has some good schools, but non as desirable for in state students as UNC-CH, UCB, UMich, etc. To highlight that I didn't visit one school in NJ :P. For the second or third (whatever we are) richest state, our school systems sure need tweaking.</p>

<p>I think the UNC system is pretty great. I'm glad we qualify for in state tution. I think my brother may definitely take advantage of that. There's no way he could get in UNC-CH OOS.</p>