<p>I've got good grades/tests, so I'm pretty confident I would get accepted at UNC.</p>
<p>But I'm concerned about financing.</p>
<p>That out-of-state tuition of $21,000+ is hard to justify for a public university, but I really like the idea of going here.</p>
<p>What does UNC offer (if anything) based on National Merit Scholar status?</p>
<p>My S got the $2500 National Merit Scholarship (from the national test sponsors) his first year, and then UNC will give him additional money each year. I think it’s $1000 per year. </p>
<p>There are also a handful of OOS full ride merit scholarships given each year. I think they give around 25 or 30, so if your stats are really good, you could have a shot at one of them. To me, it seems that if you love the school, it can’t hurt to apply if you have pretty good grades, etc. But you must take my advice with a grain of salt – I have only one data point from which to form my opinions… and I’m pretty biased toward him. (I wonder how he feels about being my ‘firstborn data point?’)</p>
<p>You have to understand if you are out of state then it is not really a public university for you. The University is supported and subsidized by the taxpayers of North Carolina in this case. Their mission is first to serve their in-state population. When you come from out of state you need to pay more of your fair share since your family is not paying taxes into the North Carolina university system.</p>
<p>So were you even attempting to answer my question, iadorking?</p>
<p>@greenlantern: iadorking was addressing the part of your post that was talking bout oss tuition being hard to justify, and he is right about UNC’s constitutional mandate, which is to provide a university education to the citizens of NC for as close to free as possible. Out-of-state students are not covered by this mandate, as they have not paid taxes. That being said, most UNC system schools do give students who have received National Merit scholarships some sort of institution specific scholarship. Also as GrizzMom noted, most merit scholarships are full rides for out-of-staters, while they are not for us in-staters (this is something i take issue with, but if your OSS it helps.)</p>
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<p>So, would rather pay almost twice as much in tuition to a private school?</p>
<p>Yes, trying to educate you to the reality of life, taxes, government and erroneous insulting pot shots.</p>
<p>Let me clarify…</p>
<p>That out-of-state tuition of $21,000+ is hard to justify for a public university, but I really like the idea of going here.</p>
<p>Hard to justify as in my own in-state school is very good. As a result, it’s hard for me to justify paying OOS tuition to UNC.</p>
<p>I fully understand why OOS tuition is more expensive. The irony is that my family lived in NC for about 10 years, which is one of the reasons I want to return.</p>
<p>Sorry you felt like you were insulted iadorking.</p>
<p>Now, back to the main topic…</p>
<p>I find the UNC website a little confusing when it comes to applying for scholarships.</p>
<p>It appears that there are a couple of scholarships that require addition applications/submissions, but it also appears that UNC considers (without additional submissions) students for merit scholarships.</p>
<p>Is that correct?</p>
<p>Nope, didn’t feel insulted here however your justification statement indicated that you didn’t understand in-state vs out of state facts of life. Your follow up statement further clarified what you meant but you in no way indicated that in your first statement. Your flippant question of impatience about answering your question shows the arrogance of your youth. Hopefully if you are as good as you think you are prior to any interview you lose your attitude of entitlement. If you truly lived in North Carolina then you will realize if you use the eyes of an adult that there is a culture of civility and graciousness in North Carolina that may not be as cultivated in other states. If you truly want a shot at a scholarship then you may want to remember that when it comes to scholarship day.</p>
<p>iadorking, thanks. I know everything I need to know about you at this point.</p>
<p>I hope you’re not indicative of other UNC students (or prospective students). And I don’t believe that you are because I know about 8 people going to school there right now and they’re not jackasses.</p>
<p>What sense of entitlement? I came on here asking a pretty simple question regarding how to go about applying for OOS scholarships.</p>
<p>What in the heck was in my original post that made you think anything different?</p>
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<p>I’ve got good grades/tests, so I’m pretty confident I would get accepted at UNC.</p>
<p>But I’m concerned about financing.</p>
<p>That out-of-state tuition of $21,000+ is hard to justify for a public university, but I really like the idea of going here.</p>
<h2>What does UNC offer (if anything) based on National Merit Scholar status? </h2>
<p>How could you possibly misconstrue that?</p>
<p>In no way did I insult you nor did I do anything that required the childish response that you posted. Please don’t respond to me anymore. And if you do, it doesn’t matter. You’re on my ignore list.</p>
<p>Have a day.</p>
<p>I apologize for my colorful language in my previous post. I was angry and let it slip. It was entirely my fault. I should not have done that. It will not happen again.</p>
<p>(I would have edited it, but the board would not let me.)</p>
<p>Regarding scholarships:</p>
<ol>
<li> A separate application is required for the Robertson Scholarship, which is administered by the Robertson Foundation.</li>
<li> A separate application is required for the Morehead-Cain Scholarship, which is administered by the Morehead-Cain Foundation. However, since you are OOS, unless you go to an approved school and receive the schools nomination, your only opportunity would be for the admissions committee to recommend you to the foundation for consideration.</li>
<li> A separate application is required for the Pogue Scholarship.</li>
<li> Unless there has been a recent change, you are automatically considered for other scholarships.</li>
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<p>If your state has a good state university paying OOS tuition to attend UNC can be a tough choice, and may not be the best choice. However, if private schools are in the mix, the tuition at UNC suddenly looks very reasonable. </p>
<p>FWIW, iadorking is not a UNC student and doesn’t appear to be the parent of a UNC student.</p>
<p>FWIW Alumnus</p>
<p>Thanks tyr. That was very concise and informative. Exactly what I was looking for.</p>
<p>The question I’m asking (we’re asking) is “Is paying private college tuition for a public school education worth it?” In general I think that answer is no. But there are a handful of schools (UNC, Michigan, Virginia) where I think the answer may be yes. That’s why I’m trying to see what all my options are.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the info. Very useful.</p>
<p>Just to add a little more value for anyone having the same questions…</p>
<p>Robertson Scholarship - <a href=“http://www.robertsonscholars.org/[/url]”>http://www.robertsonscholars.org/</a></p>
<p>Morehead-Cain Scholarship - <a href=“http://www.moreheadcain.org/[/url]”>http://www.moreheadcain.org/</a></p>
<p>Pogue Scholarship - <a href=“http://studentaid.unc.edu/pdf/misc/pogueapp.pdf[/url]”>http://studentaid.unc.edu/pdf/misc/pogueapp.pdf</a>
(This is a PDF of the application)</p>
<p>I appreciate the link for the Pogue, greenlantern. Seems like we’re both in the same situation.</p>
<p>Are you applying for Robertson or Morehead? I haven’t decided, haha.</p>
<p>Hopefully both of us can get into UNC with a decent amount of money. :D</p>
<p>That Pogue link was hard to find!</p>
<p>I haven’t decide on them either. I need to digest all the information and see which one(s) are applicable for me.</p>
<p>Here’s hoping we both get in!</p>
<p>“FWIW Alumnus”
Hopefully you have some influence at your Alma mater and can keep some of the riff-raff out. </p>
<p>Just in case no one mentioned it, thanks for attempting to help.</p>
<p>$21,000 + for an education at a school that ranks in the top ten public schools consistently is not a bad deal.</p>
<p>To wit - compare these out of state costs</p>
<p>Michigan - $34, 937 </p>
<p>UVA - $31, 870</p>
<p>Cal Berkeley - $32,418</p>
<p>Wisconsin $22,270</p>
<p>Illinois $26, 802 - $31,120</p>
<p>UNC $23,513 (cost for 2009-10)</p>
<p>Its a far cry from the $600 I paid per semester twenty-five years ago for in-state.</p>