<p>the max amount of AP credits we can get is 16, right? can we choose which credits we want? for instance, i want to keep my credits for both english AP's and spanish to fulfill my nontechnical requirements and for the economic requirement (i'm in SEAS). thats a total of 13. i would like to take advanced science classes as well (hopefully start from Calc III and Freshman Orgo) so would i just have to forgo the advanced credit for them? i'm a bit confused on how this all works. thx in advance!</p>
<p>Yeah. It’s a bit confusing so I’ll tell you what I did. I have 6 credits for Calculus I and II, which put me in Calculus III in fall semester. Then I had 4 credits for Micro and Macro, getting me out of Principles of Economics. That left 6 credits free to fulfill non-technical requirements. However, the maximum is 16 so anymore than that won’t benefit you.</p>
<p>As for Intensive Organic Chemistry for Freshman, there are no required AP tests for that. During the New Student Orientation Program, all the students sit in to take a test to place out of General Chemistry into either Intensive Chemistry (Second Semester Chemistry) or Organic Chemistry. However, I would strongly advise against going to Organic Chemistry because it self-selects the top students into one classroom. The curve is very harsh and the students very smart. My friends who were the top of their class in high school earned B’s, in a school where the curve Freshman year is around B+ if you’re average.</p>
<p>wait, so i can’t simply use credits for the nontech requirements and take the advanced classes without choosing to take the credit like say the 6 credits for calc I and calc II?</p>
<p>this max credit thing is really limiting…</p>
<p>Wait. I’m not sure about your question. The policy’s really straightforward. 16 AP credits maximum. Use them wisely. For advanced classes, you’ll need to get departmental approval, usually through a test (such as advanced chemistry and advanced physics). Once you complete the advanced classes and get a C or better, they give you credit for the prerequisite class. </p>
<p>So like Organic Chemistry. If you finish the whole year of it, then you will get credit for Chemistry 1 and Chemistry 2. This does not interfere with the 16 AP Credit limit. Essentially, AP Physics and AP Chemistry are useless tests for advanced classes. AP Biology is completely useless in the sense it does not fulfill anything. </p>
<p>By the way, seriously consider not going into advanced classes. I finished first semester with a 4.0 because I took the easy way out. I took AP Chemistry, AP Physics C, and AP Biology but I didn’t care. It was awesome.</p>
<p>i’ll def take that into consideration…thx for ur help!</p>
<p>I think nygirl is talking about using AP credits (for example, AP History/English/Foreign Lang) to fulfill the mandatory 9 credits of nontechnical elective courses. The point is to get rid of the liberal arts requirements to free up more space for advanced math/science classes.</p>
<p>The SEAS bulletin says that’s OK, right here:</p>
<p>"Liberal Arts Core for SEAS Students: 27-Point Nontechnical Requirement</p>
<p> SEAS students must take 16 to 18 points of credit of required courses in list A and 9 to 11 elective points chosen from the approved courses in list B. The total combined number of nontechnical points (from lists A and B, below) must add up to at least 27. Neither list can be modified by advising deans or faculty advisers.</p>
<p> **Advanced Placement (AP) credit in appropriate subject areas can be applied toward the 9-point elective nontechnical requirement. **"</p>
<p>Say, for example, I have 5’s on AP Calc BC, AP Micro & Macro, AP English Lang & Lit.
That’s 6 credits from Calc I & II, 4 credits from Econ 1105, and 6 more nontech elective credits.
So I’d start out with Calc III, Econ 3211 (or 3213), and only have to take 3 additional points worth of nontech electives to fulfil the 9-point requirement.</p>
<p>At least that’s how I think it would work, someone please correct me if I’m wrong.</p>
<p>Concerning what ShruggingSheep and beard tax said…</p>
<p>So beard tax said that using say AP Physics C to take an advanced class and passing that advanced class with a C or above means that you get the credit for the advanced class plus the credit listed on the AP credit chart, but that credit will not count towards your 16 AP credit limitation?</p>
<p>In other words, say we use AP Calc BC to skip Calc 1 and go into Calc 2. Will the extra credit we get once we finish Calc 2 count towards the 16 credit limitation?</p>
<p>You can use AP Calculus BC to skip Math V1101, get 3 credits for your AP score, and go right into Math V1102. The next 3 credits you get for Math V1102 do not count towards the 16 credit AP limitation, since you got those credits by taking a class at Columbia and not an AP test. </p>
<p>For more information, check out [2008</a> - 2009 SEAS Bulletin:Undergraduate Programs](<a href=“http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/bulletin/undergraduate_studies/undergrad_programs/index.html]2008”>http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/bulletin/undergraduate_studies/undergrad_programs/index.html)</p>
<p>ok, so if i also get a 5 on my AP English Lit exam this yr, can I use it along with my AP English Language and Spanish scores to fulfill my 9 credit non-tech requirement and cover economics if i get sufficient grades in the macro and micro AP’s? that would be a total of 13 credits with 3 to spare. now can I still start from freshman orgo and calc III if my AP scores and placement test scores are sufficient? And apparently I can also get 3 credits for AP Bio so might as well use that as well up to the max of 16 credits, right? thx in advance!</p>
<p>I don’t think they’d allow you to place into a higher level class like Calc III, but forgo the AP credits for Calc I and II just so they don’t eat into your 16-point limit. This would be a question for your advisor (or if you can’t wait, ask someone at the summer advising session).</p>
<p>Whoa. I got confused reading this thread. The policy is confusing but I’ll try once again to understand it. </p>
<p>I only used AP Credits for the 16 credit maximum. I never took advanced classes, but I have an idea of howthey work. I used my AP Credits for Calculus I, II, and Principles of Economics (10 credits). The other 6 credits I put toward my non-technical requirement.</p>
<p>Another method is going into Organic Chemistry or Intensive Chemistry. You don’t need AP Chemistry to take the class. You just need to pass a departmental test with material covered in the AP Class. Once you get into Organic Chemistry, the credits you earn through the class do not interfere with the AP Credits. Upon completion of Orgo, you get 6 credits of Chemistry. From what I understand, this is not added on to your AP Credits.</p>
<p>Total
16 AP Credits (Calc - 6, Econ - 4, Non-technical - 6)
6 Extra Credits for Completion of Orgo (I am not sure if it interferes with AP Credits, but I don’t think they do)</p>