<p>How does being OOS hurt my chances at schools like UCLA, UC-Berkley, UNC, and UVA? Cause, I've heard that it hurts you, but I've also heard that it can help you. Can someone please clarify. Thank you :)</p>
<p>It kills you. I can’t go to UVA because I’m oos</p>
<p>Oh…really?! But how…you’re paying the college more tuition - wouldn’t that increase your chances?</p>
<p>LOL - UNC OOS is like the Ivy league and only open to very top students… 80% in state by law, add in recruited athletes, internationals and hooked up students and your competing nationally for a very few openings… Hope that helps</p>
<p>Also - “You’re paying the college more tuition - wouldn’t that increase your chances?” - It might at a much lower class of schools but trust me smart and successful alumni give much much more money than your additional tuition ever will.</p>
<p>One other quick thought - “Oh…really?!” Make sure you don’t sound rude to people who are trying to help you.</p>
<p>At UNC only 18% of students can be from out-of-state, and thousands of out-of-state students apply, so it is very difficult for them to get in.</p>
<p>ncmentor, how was that rude? It wasn’t rude AT ALL!! I was just in awe…</p>
<p>The schools you list along with Michigan have some of the highest OOS demand. Historically the California system has averaged over 90% in-state populations, obviously that doesn’t leave a lot of slots for everyone else. California’s financial problems are forcing some of the UCs to increase OOS acceptances, but there are a lot of reports that this will come at the cost of no financial aid and no increase in resources to house and teach these additional students. Only time is going to answer that question.</p>
<p>On CC UNC is notorious for being a tough OOS admit though beyond the 18% of the population number, I’ve never seen any actual stats. The only numbers I’ve seen for UVA show that it’s a tougher admit than in-state (47% IS vs 29% OOS admit rates) but those figures are from 2008. Around town here in Ann Arbor the feeling is that you need to be at least sniffing around the 75th%-tile to feel comfortable about your chances - of course that’s completely anecdotal.</p>
<p>Short answer: OOS makes it tougher at the “prestigious publics”. The closer to the high end of the scale you are the better your shot - Hardly an earth-shattering insight, I know.</p>
<p>[IAS</a> Historical Data: First-Time First-Year Applicants by Residency](<a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm]IAS”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm)</p>
<p>Thanks 
I guess I’ll end up taking those schools off of my college list (with the exception of Berkeley - I still REALLY want to go there, so I’ll apply anyways). Thank you.</p>