<p>which colleges recruit student athletes that have the following?</p>
<p>higher ACT score...................30 ACT or above</p>
<p>Class Ranking - top 1, 5 or 10 percent of class.</p>
<p>are there some programs that REQUIRE athletes to meet certain academic standards for admission?</p>
<p>know that the d3's are looking for students with strong academics. what schools (d1 and d2) are looking for scholar athletes as well? would you please list them by name?</p>
<p>also.........are there any programs seeking scholar athletes that may be named National Merit Semi-finalists in September?</p>
<p>Well, a lot of it depends on how good an athlete you are and how important your sport is to the particular college. All programs require athletes to meet certain academic standards. The bottom level is quite different at Michigan State than Princeton. The Ivy League schools lower the academic standards more for the revenue sports like football and ice hockey than for tennis and swimming. In D1, Davidson and the Patriot League schools are examples of schools that look for scholar athletes.</p>
<p>All of the bigtime sports schools are very happy to find a true scholar-athlete. For schools where it is a requirement, Stanford, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice and maybe Notre Dame have pretty high standards. ND has been up and down on how tough it wants to be. Right now I think it is down some.</p>
<p>I couldn't tell whether you are interested in athletic scholarship money. Patriot League doesn't award athletic scholarships in many sports (some schools none). American U does give athletic scholarships. The Patriot League coach who we talked to made it clear that ED is important for him to be able to really help with admissions.</p>
<p>biggie's seem to be looking at the top blue chips on the national level at the moment.......for the early signing period. do you think they might bring the true scholar athletes on board for the late signing period? nmsf and nmf will be announced by then.</p>
<p>Notre Dame's pretty famous for the strict academic standards it imposes on its athletes. It's what many credit for Notre Dame's failure to be good at football in past 20 years.</p>
<p>we had heard that the patriot league can now offer athletic scholarships but couldn't offer them in the past. am thinking though that they have higher standards for their student athletes than say.......the big 12 and others. think i read something about coach "tips" once relating to admissions at selective d1's. have you heard anything on that?</p>
<p>yes, i think, i saw a story on tv about the nd fb program. d's sport is women's basketball. can you think of any wbb programs w/strong academic requirements?</p>
<p>Patriot League CAN offer scholarships, but many of the schools have chosen not to do so. Yes, the coaches can certainly "tip" you with admissions. It depends where you are on the coach's list how much help you get. For example, one Ivy coach told S that he would love to have him on the team and he would do great, but he wasn't in the first tier of his recruits and wouldn't get much help with ED admissions. We appreciated the honesty. You might want to look back on some past threads on recruiting. Search on "recruiting" and "likely letter". You will get some frightening information.</p>
<p>ok. will check those. think i may have read them before but will review again.<br>
she's receiving letters from admissions telling her she's a "likely" candidate for admission. am working on communicating this to coaches. do you think that will help?
ed doesn't sound like a very good option for a scholar athlete from what i've read. better to look at financial aid packages for multiple schools unless an athletic scholarship is going to be involved. what do you think about ed for a scholar athlete? thanks for the tips!</p>
<p>had serious interest from one ivy but they cut her from their short list. am thankful that they communicated that and that she can focus on other schools.</p>
<p>don't think what she's receiving now is the same as the "likely" letters as mentioned in the recruiting threads. letters being received now are types that "encourage her to apply" and include and application and state that she is a strong candidate for admission. these letters are coming from schools where she's had no contact from coaches. it's all very interesting. so..........is it then possible that the other types of "likely" letters to recruited athletes will be coming, if at all, in October?.......she's a senior. much to learn. thanks for all your help-posters.</p>
<p>condor, I started one of the past threads mentioned above...</p>
<p>What are your goals for your D?</p>
<p>-significant financial aid/athletic or merit scholarship?
-getting in to a highly competitive school?
-getting on to a highly competitive team?
-or something else......?</p>
<p>Our goal was for the sports ability/recruitment to tip her over the brink & into a better school than she might be able to get into otherwise. We really did not care about her getting on to the best team and were actually focusing on lesser teams where her skills would be a bigger asset to the team.</p>
<p>Thus we went for the highly academic D3's (see CC's "top LAC" list for the ballpark), particularly the non-powerhouse teams on that list. We knew that these schools were almost all need-based aid schools which would disqualify our daughter from aid, but our goal was the selective school admission.</p>
<p>Had our goal been a financial package, we would have shot lower both academically and athletically to merit-aid D-3 schools.</p>
<p>Knowing your goals will help for advice.</p>
<p>Also: some Patriot League schools are not that focused on sports recruitment. NESCAC (D3) has very sports-oriented, academic schools. Otherwise schools like Grinnell & Beloit are very into basketball & give merit aid.</p>
<p>To echo what SBMom said, if your goal is to bump up the admission chances, ED is important. The coaches have a lot more pull in the ED round than in the regular round (at the highly selective schools). Of course, if you are one of the nation's best in your sport it might not matter.<br>
The letters your are getting encouraging your D to apply are just marketing letters based on her PSAT/SAT. Don't put them in the bank. Your D sounds like a great academic candidate- it all depends on your goals.</p>
<p>yes, a strong candidate for admission......high scores and high class ranking, ec's....................for coaches, very athletic, experienced player, smart......the whole package. not blue chip.........but a solid player w/experience and success on the national level.<br>
what is NESCAC?<br>
selectives are showing interest but i have concern about her being saddled w/large amounts of debt. the selective colleges may be a great fit but from what i've read.......there are no guarantees that she'd be admitted (although she is a strong candidate) so i think she should consider applying to mulitple schools to have more options, not just one. ed would lock her into that one school and w/out knowing the bottom line on financial, not an option. doesn't sound like a good idea to me for athletes to do e.d., unless they would receive a full-ride athletic scholarship at that one school. coaches can call now.........so she'll look more closely at those schools. do only d1's offer official visits? would she get any visits paid to schools that are recruiting her for academics only and who appear to know nothing about the sport?
gettings looks at all levels, mid to lower d1, upper d2, d3, naia, jc's. what's the soonest they'd make the financial package known.....w/regular admission? not until spring? her counselor would like her to applications in by Nov. 1.</p>
<p>which d3's are then known for generous merit aid? which are known as "sports schools?"
coach tips at d3's won't happen......ncaa is now monitoring d3 admissions closely. see ncaa website, d3 ncaa auditing.
d is possibly a strong candidate for admission w/out a coach tip.
strong academics and selective colleges are definitely at the top of her list. d not caught up at all in having to play d1 just to say she went d1. academics is a priority. d3's could be a good fit, but need to see the bottom line on financial package, especially when she may get full-ride offers at publics because of academics and PSAT. honors programs are contacting her also.</p>
<p>I don't know what you mean by "coach tips at DIII won't happen". They do happen. The student still has to meet certain academic requirements, but many DIII schools do tip athletes. They don't get athletic scholarship money, but they sure get help with admissions.<br>
I don't know the answers to your other questions. Sorry.</p>
<p>condor: the nescac is the athletic league for prestigious New England LACs:
Williams, Middlebury, Amherst, Bowdoin, Bates, Colby, Tufts, Connecticut College, Wesleyan, Trinity, Hamilton. williams and middlebury have the strongest sports teams.</p>
<p>however, coaches w/d3's that have spoken w/d, have stressed that they have nothing to do w/admissions. that's been our experience so far anyway.
i truly appreciate you trying to answer my questions. i have lots. the athletics and academics together bring up lots of questions, especially when it comes to selectives. did hear that naia's can offer athletics and merit based aid. can you think of any selective naia's that might be worth checking into? want to try to help her as best we can with the process. she's worked hard on both the athletics and the academics.</p>