Questions about Chicago's acceptance

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<p>Hi, I'm hoping to get into the university of chicago (probably in economics). When looking at average SAT scores, I noticed that the writing section was ignored by the college board when describing average sat scores (College</a> Search - University of Chicago - Chicago - At a Glance...does%5DCollege">http://collegesearch.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1713&profileId=6)...does) that mean they don't take it into account and can I use this as a benchmark for which universities do and don't (ie Cornell doesn't, UCLA does)...thanks alot in advance</p>

<p>Also, what's the deal with the subject tests in that area?</p>

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<p>The new SAT is required, but they do not consider the writing section. SAT II tests are not required.</p>

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<p>Thanks alot...does this mean the collegeboard site can be used to tell which universities consider the writing section (just the section not the essay...right)?</p>

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<p>From the U of Chicago website for admissions for this past year:</p>

<p><a href="https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/level3.asp?id=310%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/level3.asp?id=310&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Test scores - Have official SAT Reasoning or ACT scores sent to the University of Chicago. (Chicago's SAT code is 1832; the ACT code is 1152.) All testing must be completed prior to the application deadline. SAT Subject Test scores are not required, but you are welcome to add them to your file. **If you choose to submit SAT scores, you must sit for the new version of the SAT with the essay component.<a href="If%20you%20choose%20to%20submit%20ACT%20scores,%20we%20do%20not%20require%20the%20optional%20essay%20component.">/B</a>

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<p>That statement certainly makes it sound like they do consider the writing section. Maybe the writing section doesn't show up in the statistics yet because they only recently started counting it?</p>

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<p>Or, SATs w/o writing won't be eligible for submission to U.S News.</p>

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<p>"If you choose to submit SAT scores, you must sit for the new version of the SAT with the essay component"</p>

<p>I don't know...they may be mentioning the essay component so that prospective students can more easily identify which SAT is the "new version"...it's not definative either way</p>

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<p>The University of Chicago has not counted the writing section in previous years. Since they haven't changed their website for next years' applicants yet, I think that sentence was just to clarify what they meant by "new SAT." Remember that in addition to gaining a writing section, the SAT also underwent a number of changes in the math and critical reading sections.</p>

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<p><a href="https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/level3.asp?id=377%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/level3.asp?id=377&lt;/a>
-According to their admission statistics site, your definately right, they do not count writing (or at least one of the sections)...thanks alot</p>

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<p>I believe Chicago and a number of other schools were waiting to see if the writing section was a useful predictor of success or not. I don't know if this has been decided as yet.</p>

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<p>Why not just do well on it? Your writing ability will play a major factor in whether or not you are accepted because of their weight placed on the essay.</p>

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<p>I think the reason they are holding out on it is because the skills tested in the writing section have no baring on actual writing skills and the reason why I didn't want to take it (I am better at writing then it appears on the test)</p>

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<p>Writing is about research, logic, thinking things through, and structuring your essay to maximize its effectiveness. A 30-minute writing test can't assess any of those things well. I got a 660 on the writing section, yet I've received an A in all of my Core classes so far. I know people who got 800s who struggle to reach above a B+ (and no, these aren't lazy people). The writing style emphasized in high school (and tested on the SATs) is much different from the writing style emphasized here.</p>

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<p>"The writing style emphasized in high school (and tested on the SATs) is much different from the writing style emphasized here."</p>

<p>To a large extent, this is true. The thing that the SAT essay does demonstrate is your ability to write clearly and to spec (assuming you can derive what the spec is) under pressure. It is also a measure of your luck of the draw in readers.</p>

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<p>When it comes to the essays... giving random examples to prove a point will get you a perfect score (if it's written clearly)...what I'm wondering is if the college search section of the college board leaving out the writing section for their test scores indicates if the school accepts the section (in general)</p>

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<p>hadooken212 -</p>

<p>the college board website isn't perfect - I would always confirm with the individual college regarding the status of the writing section.</p>

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<p>Sure thing...thanks alot</p>

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<p>Libby mentioned in an earlier post that the writing scores are not even seen by the admission counselors much less considered.</p>