Questions about (for) cal (students)

<p>So I just went to the UC4You event today at Berkeley and it was…informational. haha
I figured this would probably be the best place to ask any follow up questions.</p>

<li><p>They said that Engineering Undeclared is the most competitive. Does this mean that the most amount of people apply to this than any other?</p></li>
<li><p>Would I have a greater chance of being accepted if I applied with a declared engineer major (computer science) than if I applied undeclared? Or is it just the College of Engineering that is competitive, that is to say all majors within it are competitive?</p></li>
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<p>My top choice is to go with the major Electrical Engineering and Computer Science</p>

<li><p>Is there a certain quota that the University can only admit a certain amount of students from one particular school? </p></li>
<li><p>Do they compare high schools? For example, do they admit based on how known, or old, or good the high school is? </p></li>
<li><p>Lastly, whats the deal with Spring admissions? Why are these students not admitted with all the others?</p></li>
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<p>Thanks!</p>

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<li><p>"Most competitive" does not necessarily mean "most amount of people". It probably means that every year, Berkeley receives a multitude of highly-qualified applicants that have VERY close stats, but must sadly turn a majority of them away...hence it is "most competitive". (read: luck?)</p></li>
<li><p>EECS is a highly-selective program. I once heard a statistic saying that only >100 applicants are accepted.</p></li>
<li><p>^#2</p></li>
<li><p>They compare YOU to the caliber of your HIGH SCHOOL. Did you maximize your potential to take the most difficult classes, huge work load, etc...?</p></li>
<li><p>FPF's, spring admits, etc...are admitted in the spring because the university KNOWS that there is bound to be a number of students dropping out of Cal for one reason or another by the time spring comes around.</p></li>
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<p>Hope that helped.</p>

<p>Yea that really helped thanks!</p>

<p>Ok so based on what ^ said, would I have a better chance of getting in if I went with undeclared?</p>

<p>What if I applied for Bioengineering right now and got in, could I "simply" change to EECS?</p>

<p>Does anyone know for sure any statistic of how many people are admitted to EECS?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>BioE, EECS, and Eng. Undeclared are all very hard to get into and all very comparable. There's no sense splitting hairs on the relative selectivity between them; instead, go for the one that reflects your passion in HS the best.</p>

<p>Its "relatively easy" by Berkeley standards to change majors in eng (its still not a cakewalk) if you are already in the college of eng.</p>

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<li>Because Cal students are notorious for taking 4.5 years or going off for EAPs in spring.
There is a cap on the number of students they can have on campus per term so they try to increase the number of students they can admit by admitting people for spring</li>
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<p>Ok I've been reading responses and past threads about EECS and how competitive it is.
Based on what I've read, I'm scared ****less that I won't get into Berkeley because EECS is a capped major and very competitive. </p>

<p>But what I still dont get is how, or in what sense, is it "Competitive"? Is it competitive in the sense that the course work is very difficult and the students fight for grades and curves?
or that getting in as a freshman is competitive? If so, what would be some competitive GPAs and test scores?</p>

<p>so the chances of anyone trying to get into CS thorough L&S are much greater than one trying to get into EECS through CoE?</p>

<p>"much" is an understatement.</p>

<p>you chances are significantly better if you apply for L&S CS. Unless you are interested in EE, there really is no reason to do EECS. L&S CS suffices.</p>

<p>Also, if you want to do the EECS fifth year MS in CS program (Description</a> | 5 Year MS | EECS at UC Berkeley), you still can with a CS B.A. from L&S.</p>