Questions from a SoCal prospect

<p>I was accepted into UCSC awhile ago and I have quite a few questions that are burning in my mind!</p>

<p>First of all I am living SoCal and is wondering whether there is an efficient way for a very financially poor person to get to UCSC. Going by plane is too expensive for me and going by bus seems very time consuming. Bus seems like the cheapest option available for me and even that takes quite a toll on my budget especially if I want to go back and forth to visit family or friends.</p>

<p>I am not a very social person but I also do not want to be in a silent and boring setting. This doesn't mean I can't be social when I want to though I am not into partying and all that other jazz. Is there a place here for someone like that?</p>

<p>What are some fun activities to do at and around UCSC, especially during weekends? The campus layout and location makes it seem rather isolated.</p>

<p>I have heard drug use to be common here and I am not into drugs at all. Is it as bad as some people say?</p>

<p>My major is Computer Science: Game Design and it seems like a very interesting major, especially since this is the only UC with the major. Any students in the major care to share thoughts/experiences regarding it?</p>

<p>That's all for now. Thank you in advance!</p>

<p>Transportation:
Watch for flight sales. Flying is honestly the cheapest way most of the time. Southwest is a good option and used to be the best before they changed their awards program. Their prices still remain fairly competitive within California, though, and they have frequent schedules. Plus they have no baggage fee for the first two checked bags.</p>

<p>I’ve priced out buses, trains, flights, and car rides for visiting friends in SoCal and flying has always been the cheapest unless I have others with me splitting the cost of gas.</p>

<p>Parties:
Most of them are off campus. Despite some popular beliefs that we’re a free for all here, campus security is pretty serious about maintaining the peace. Parties that are on campus don’t last long. Finding out about these parties really does depend on who you know, though.</p>

<p>Activities:
The campus is definitely isolated. It can be annoying for doing things off campus, but it is what helps maintain the safe atmosphere on campus as well.</p>

<p>On campus you can find clubs, intramural sports (we also have some DIII teams in a few sports), and various other outings through OPERS. I haven’t looked at what’s being offered this quarter, but I’ve seen various hikes, sailing, and scuba trips listed as well.</p>

<p>Off campus you can find things like the beach, the Boardwalk, and various city sponsored events. I don’t go off campus much, though, so I don’t keep up on what there is to do.</p>

<p>Drugs:
It is far from as bad as people say. You will find some on this board who like to claim it is that bad, but it’s all about who you surround yourself with and what you’re looking for (those who go looking for trouble will find it). I’ve said it several times before, but I’ve honestly had far more and worse encounters with marijuana on Berkeley’s campus than I have on UCSC’s campus.</p>

<p>Yes, drug use exists. But no one is going to force it on you and depending on who you surround yourself with, you might even never (or at least rarely) encounter that “lovely” smell. You’ll find drug use at every campus, not just UCSC.</p>

<p>CS - Game Design:
Actually, we’re no longer the only UC with this. I believe Irvine was the one that picked it up this past year, but UCSC was the first.</p>

<p>While this is not my major, I have known people in it. While I have heard great things, the biggest problem seems to be that it’s rare to have people who are good at both elements of the major. Often it seems you have a person either strongly leaning one way or the other and struggling in the opposite area. Note this might not be as common as those in the major I’ve talked to have said and I have no direct experience with the major aside from talking to friends in it.</p>

<p>Beyond that, many seem to like it. If you want a real exposure to what the program is like, I highly suggest setting up a meeting with the department to speak with them about it. They would be able to give you a great overview of the major.</p>

<p>Thank you for your very informative answers! They really helped clear a few things for me. Anyone else here know more about Computer Science Game Design, especially in comparison to a normal Computer Science program at any other college?</p>

<p>Farawayday: where are you transferring from? I’m from southern cal too. I’m transferring from LACC.</p>

<p>@eablinksum I’m actually an incoming freshmen.</p>

<p>Sorry about that! What high school?</p>

<p>Your cheapest way to get home is carpool with others. There are commonly people doing it; you can find them on Uloop. Greyhound is 50ish bucks and takes FOREVER, and if you plan ahead enough you can probably get a Southwest flight for that.</p>

<p>I’m a student in game design. I don’t think UCI has picked up a game design program yettt but I know they’re trying to.</p>

<p>Anyhow, difference between CS:GD and CS vanilla. The capstone project is a major difference. In GD you take a set three-quarter sequence your senior year and make a game (in groups) that is polished enough to be published. For CS, you take a capstone course. Single quarter, usually.</p>

<p>In CS, you’re very concentrated on engineering classes. In GD, you get to spread out a little bit into art/music/film/econ/theater depending on which you choose. In GD you have fewer solid upper div requirements. More electives to choose from, basically.</p>

<p>What Kender says is somewhat true. We have some people in here that absolutely rock at programming, but have little knack for art/music/design. This is not a problem if you are a programmer, as artists can often be recruited from outside of class. You’re HIGHLY valuable if you are good at both art and programming. However, do not expect to survive in the major if you don’t at least enjoy programming. Most of the people I have seen drop out of game design have been in that position. They didn’t like programming, and just wanted the design/art role. </p>

<p>We get a lot of companies recruiting on campus to try to get our GD students before they graduate. Blizzard, EA, and Zynga to name some big ones. Also many local studios. Regular software companies are just as common on that front.</p>

<p>@eablinksum Just some school in LA county</p>

<p>@Liesel Thank you so much! I am a bit worried about the programming part as I have practically no experience in programming. Will this be hard for me to pick up or should I start learning some of the basics like languages and what not?</p>

<p>You’d certainly benefit from learning some basics. You will be in very good shape if you know the following in any language: Data types, for/do/while loops, classes (constructors), and how to build a method. You also ought to have good problem solving skills. Just being able to think a problem through to possible solutions is important.</p>

<p>If you want to get wayfar ahead, learn Java. It’s used in most of the lower division classes. It is more important that you learn one language in depth rather than shallow knowledge of many languages. Because once you pick up your first language, every one after that will be much much easier.</p>

<p>If you look at the curriculum charts ([UCSC</a> Engineering Curriculum](<a href=“Baskin School of Engineering – Baskin Engineering provides unique educational opportunities, world-class research with an eye to social responsibility and diversity.”>Baskin School of Engineering – Baskin Engineering provides unique educational opportunities, world-class research with an eye to social responsibility and diversity.)) you’ll see that there are two possible paths for the intro to programming courses. If you learn all I mentioned above, you’ll be set for CMPS12A. If not, you’ll learn all of that in CMPS 5J. Neither is particularly better than the other. You’ll likely have no problem finishing your degree in 4 years, whichever way you choose.</p>

<p>Though I ought to note, if you’re going to strive for the fast track and go into CMPS12A, you have to place into calculus. This works either via the math placement exam or an AP calculus score.</p>

<p>Sorry if this is all a bit overwhelming. I was super confused about this when I was an incoming freshman, so I just want to put it all out there while I can think of it. :)</p>

<p>UCI does already have a game design major, Liesel :). They just call it “Game Science” and not “Game Design.” It was approved last year to be implemented this past fall.</p>

<p>[Major</a> in video games starting this fall at UCI | computer, major, games - News - The Orange County Register](<a href=“Major in video games starting this fall at UCI – Orange County Register”>Major in video games starting this fall at UCI – Orange County Register)</p>

<p>[undergraduate</a> degree in computer game science @ the bren school of information and computer sciences](<a href=“http://www.ics.uci.edu/ugrad/degrees/degree_cgs.php]undergraduate”>undergraduate degree in computer game science @ the bren school of information and computer sciences)</p>

<p>That’s pretty cool. I hadn’t heard about its progress in a while. I could never find much info about it on UCI’s actual website, only online articles. D:</p>

<p>Yeah, their website isn’t that user friendly for finding things (but this seems to be par for the course when it comes to college websites) and doesn’t seem like they advertised the major that much :(</p>

<p>It’s still very new so it’ll be interesting to see how it develops and if it gains in popularity.</p>

<p>Thank you Kender and Liesel for all your help! I am looking forward to coming to UCSC. What are the chances of me getting into the college of my choice anyhow? Crown seems like the perfect place for me and I do not really want to be placed into the other colleges.</p>

<p>It varies. It’s generally an accepted belief that you will get into at least one of your top three and there does seem to be a lot of truth to it. Porter is the only college that is a known hiccup due to the lower number of students it has been accepting (first because of the renovations and now because of the Transfer Community).</p>

<p>I don’t see Crown being too much of an issue for you to be placed in, though :). My fingers are crossed for you!</p>