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<p>Hello, I am currently enrolled at Orange Coast Community college and I will begin the arduous task of applying to the colleges of my choice for the fall 2011 term. Now I have a couple of questions regarding the transfer process, but before I lay out those questions I will provide a very brief outline of my stats: 4.0 GPA at my community college(top 2.75%), little to no EC's, bi-lingual, no work experience at all, did horribly in high school due to lack of motivation/goals and hopeful philosophy/business major. </p>

<p>The schools that I have decided to aim for are UCB, UCLA(safety), U of Chicago, and NYU.</p>

<p>On the berkeley website I could not find any information on whether or not they require SAT scores for junior transfer students, because if they did, I was planning on retaking the SATs sometime during the winter; these extra stats would also probably help with my chances at U of Chicago(even if I get my 2300 it would be a very long shot).</p>

<p>Also I am quite iffy about whether or not I would be accepted into berkeley as a business major so I am more leaning towards applying as a philosophy major then apply for a double major in business after i get accepted, now if I do go through with my plan as applying as a phil major will UCB automatically let me double major(phil/business) or can they reject my request? I am currently fulfilling the berkeley business major prereqs and the ucla philosophy major pre-reqs, but because of my lack of EC's i think it would be a safer choice to apply to berkeley as a philosophy major. Has anyone been in a similar dilemma?</p>

<p>I plan to go to law school after i finish my graduate studys, so what other colleges offer a good business program and analytical philosophy program?</p>

<p>Thank you in advance for any replies.</p>

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<p>ask your qustions again here:</p>

<p>[UC</a> Transfers - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/]UC”>UC Transfers - College Confidential Forums)</p>

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<p>You’ll probably best spend your time just calling each of your target schools with your list of prepared questions. Good luck to you and congrats on having a successful post HS academic career to date.</p>

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<p>I’ve never been in your dilemma but can speak to some of your concerns. </p>

<p>First, Berkeley only admits juniors for its Haas program, which I’m sure you are aware, is very competitive. You will have to complete most if not all of the pre-requisites by the end of the Spring semester before your first semester at Berkeley. Keep in mind that you will also be vying with current Berkeley students in the college for spots at Haas. As for double majoring, I think this will be difficult to pull off, if not impossible. Berkeley does not allow junior transfers admitted to the college (majoring in Phil would put you into this category) to transfer to the business school afterwards. Meaning, no they will not automatically let you double major, and yes, they will probably reject your request to do so. It looks to be an either/or proposition. This can be verified here…</p>

<p>[Transfer</a> Eligibility, Undergraduate Program - Haas School of Business, University of California Berkeley](<a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/transfer_eligibility.html]Transfer”>http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/transfer_eligibility.html)</p>

<p>As for scores, I don’t think Berkeley will weigh your SAT as heavily as your current grades/performance in community college. I’m pretty certain they won’t require it but double check with your advisor to be safe. CCC students do maintain a certain advantage over other applicants when transferring but your academics will have to be stellar regardless, which seems to be the case.</p>

<p>With UChicago, you are dealing with a different set of rules, criteria, risk, and uncertainty. Your best bet is to take classes at OCC that mimic the core curriculum since those will see the best opportunity to transfer into the college. Literary Theory, Discussion based honors courses, and Calculus based hard science courses would all be good choices as well as proof-based Calc. I think OCC offers an honors Calculus course taught by Moore that uses the same textbook (Spivak) so highly regarded by Chicago students in their inquiry-based math course which, coincidentally, uses the Moore method. As for business, you’ll be hard pressed to find any business courses since they don’t offer the major to undergrads, nor do they accept pre-vocational courses for credit. However, I do think your SAT’s will make a difference here. Chicago accepts a relatively small number of students when compared to the UC’s and NYU so a 2300 score will help. Traditionally, they’ve placed a disproportionate emphasis towards the essay portion of the app so that should be a top priority as well.</p>

<p>As for NYU, Stern has a great business program and is right next door to Wall Street. I don’t know much about the top philosophy departments but if you go here:
[The</a> Philosophical Gourmet Report 2009 :: Overall Rankings](<a href=“http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.asp]The”>http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/overall.asp)</p>

<p>you may find that they are pretty good in this regard as well. Rankings are always suspect and should be used with discretion, but for gaining perspective, they are sufficient. As for business, well, look at the top MBA programs, and if those same institutions offer programs for undergrads, then you’re in business. It’s basically the same education. The top names really don’t need mentioning. Cornell, UVA, and Notre Dame are also up there. </p>

<p>If you want to go to Law School, choice of major doesn’t necessarily matter. An education from any of the four schools you mentioned will place you in good stead for graduate school.</p>

<p>Hope this helps and best of luck!</p>