<p>Hello, I am currently enrolled at Orange Coast Community college and I will begin the arduous task of applying to the colleges of my choice for the fall 2011 term. Now I have a couple of questions regarding the transfer process, but before I lay out those questions I will provide a very brief outline of my stats: 4.0 GPA at my community college(top 2.75%), little to no EC's, bi-lingual, no work experience at all, did horribly in high school due to lack of motivation/goals and hopeful philosophy/business major. </p>
<p>The schools that I have decided to aim for are UCB, UCLA(safety), U of Chicago, and NYU.</p>
<p>On the berkeley website I could not find any information on whether or not they require SAT scores for junior transfer students, because if they did, I was planning on retaking the SATs sometime during the winter; these extra stats would also probably help with my chances at U of Chicago(even if I get my 2300 it would be a very long shot).</p>
<p>Also I am quite iffy about whether or not I would be accepted into berkeley as a business major so I am more leaning towards applying as a philosophy major then apply for a double major in business after i get accepted, now if I do go through with my plan as applying as a phil major will UCB automatically let me double major(phil/business) or can they reject my request? I am currently fulfilling the berkeley business major prereqs and the ucla philosophy major pre-reqs, but because of my lack of EC's i think it would be a safer choice to apply to berkeley as a philosophy major. Has anyone been in a similar dilemma?</p>
<p>I plan to go to law school after i finish my graduate studys, so what other colleges offer a good business program and analytical philosophy program?</p>
<p>First question, have you completed all the prerequisite for Berkeley, and will you be able to complete them before your spring term. Business Management and Administration major are a pretty long requirement. No work experience, and NO EC will hurt. </p>
<p>4.0 will give you some benefit. That is for sure since they count for 50%. </p>
<p>I don’t think you can major in phil while accepted in to Haas. No way! For Haas is a much more competitive school, within the Berkeley Campus. </p>
<p>So, have you finished your prerequisite for Haas if you want to go Berkeley.</p>
<p>As far as SAT scores the UCs do not require them. So no need. I know NYU and UChicago require scores to be sent, therefore if you haven’t taken them I suggest you do.</p>
<p>Also, try looking at the University of Southern California. They have a respectable business school (Marshall).</p>
<p>I am in the process of finishing up my pre reqs these up-coming semesters, my fall course load is honors intro business, math 170(precalc), macro econ, accounting 101, and phil 165 theory of knowledge. Spring courses are combination class calc 1 & 2 honors, micro econ, accounting 102, philosophy 220 symbollic language, phil 120 ethics.</p>
<p>I am not trying to get into the Haas business program, just berkeley, my friend who got accepted into berkeley believes that the the work required of students in the haas program and the benefits that are offered after completetion are unproportional. </p>
<p>can anyone answer the question about eligibility of double majoring in business if i get accepted as a philosophy major? does the addmissions office have to review my file or is it a shoe-in if i am already accept into berkeley?</p>
<p>also what is this business with an “alternate major” in the uc app process?</p>
<p>As far as Haas, Haas is the Business school in Berkley. Therefore if you were to take any business courses it would be at Haas. </p>
<p>I’m not 100% sure you can double major in Haas. Don’t quote me on it. I just heard of instances were students have no choice in switching or declaring other majors. Your best bet is to contact Berkley and receive an answer directly from them.</p>
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<p>Can you elaborate on that? Haas is in the top 10 if not top 5 in Business school rankings in the country year after year. How would the benefits not be proportional?</p>
<p>I do not know, maybe it was just not beneficial to his particular major, however I do know he is a business major but not in the Haas program, so I think that you dont HAVE to be in Haas as a business major and that is what i was looking to do. Can anyone confirm?</p>
<p>Hi, I don’t know anything about the double majoring thing, but having a 4.0 GPA is quite common in UCB, so the next important thing would be to complete as many preparatory courses that they listed. Obviously your essay should be as awesome as possible too.</p>
<p>I don’t know if this’ll help you, but my bro got accepted into UCB with a 4.0 GPA, he did not manage to take one preparatory class in CC. His EC wasn’t that awesome either. I got rejected by UCB. Have a 4.0 GPA, did not manage to take 3 preparatory classes in my CC. So preparatory classes are VERY important.</p>
<p>Business Major at berkeley = Haas. Haas=business major. You have to be in haas as a business major. However non business majors can take business classes in haas, maybe thats what your friend is doing.</p>
<p>If that is the case then, can someone give me a list of schools with good philosophy/business departments? Because I do not think I will fare too well with a 2.9 gpa in high school with only two aps, and no college EC’s, and everyone is saying a 4.0 alone doesnt hold much weight in berkeley CC transfer applications.</p>
<p>you’ll see the selection criteria for pretty much every UC. If you have a 4.0 then think of it as having 50 points. Nail the personal responses then add an extra 35 points. That’s 85 out of 100. And you don’t need to have a stock pile of EC’s. Just a few that you’re really passionate about.</p>
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<p>The major thing is completing your prerequisites. Thousands of applications are thrown out because they are deemed ineligible, whether it wasn’t because the prerequisites weren’t done or the junior standing wasn’t reached, etc.</p>
<p>I’m sure someone else better equipped will attempt to answer your school search inquiry.</p>
<p>Okay well sorry for the confusion my friend is an Econ major not a business major, thank you everyone for your responses, trying to figure everything out before november is just such a hectic task. Can anyone tell me what the major difference between econ and fiannace is? I am torn between econ/phil double major and busi/phil double major, my future goal is attending one of the top law schools.</p>
<p>I had to deal with this myself so I can speak pretty confidently about it from personal experience. </p>
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<li><p>the difference between econ and finance: Econ is more focused on the broad economy (macro) or the economy of firms (micro). Finance specifically deals with loans, bonds, stocks, and stuff like that. </p></li>
<li><p>If you want to be an econ/phil double major you could easily do it because they are both in the college of letters and science (L&S). If you want to do a bus/phil degree then you would have to be accepted into Haas, which is much harder. Keep in mind though, econ is a capped major so even if you are accepted into L&S for econ/phil you will have to get a 3.0 in prerequisites at Cal (plus some other requirements) to be accepted into the econ major.</p></li>
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<p>CCJuniortransfer: Many people choose the Econ option instead of applying to Haas because of the low acceptance rate. It’s not as big a deal for Cal students who started as freshmen because the stakes are lower. If they don’t make it into Haas, they can continue on in the College of Letters & Sciences as they don’t actually declare a major until the first semester of their junior year. Transfers who want to go to Haas apply directly to the Business School. They only get the one shot as you can’t apply to more than one college at UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>You can definitely double major as a Haas student. My friend graduated last May with a double major in business and history (and the history department requires ALL graduates to complete a 35-50 page honors thesis). She even received High Honors.</p>
<p>Okay well ultimately then, do I want to transfer as a philosophy major to increase my chances of getting into UCB and risk not being allowed to double major in econ, or should I transfer as a Econ major and risk not getting in at all, but if I get in I pretty much have no obstacles standing in my way for picking up a second major in philosophy. </p>
<p>I am 99% sure I will maintain my 4.0 GPA in both my upcoming fall and spring terms(I may even get A+'s in two of my upcoming classes which i think gives a grade of 4.33 instead of just a 4.0, or do community colleges not do that? I got a 99.7 in my stats class, such a shame) and I also just recently interviewed for a paralegal internship at a law firm(hopefully ill be hired), I have little to no EC’s except my 5 years worth of volunteer work with my old track coaches childrens track camp as a volunteer sprint coach, and a 2.9 from high school with only 2 AP classes. Also, by the end of spring 2011 I will have finished all pre-reqs for Econ and Phil(UCB doesnt have any phil reqs but UCLA does, UCLA will be my safety)</p>
<p>Although you have almost all As, I would ask you if you will be 100% completed with the requirements for Haas by Spring of 2011. If you won’t have even one of the prerequisites, forget it. Haas is extremely strict and clear that their requirements must be satisfied for an applicant to be deemed eligible. Your GPA is strong enough, and E.C.s are great too, but they don’t care if you have not shown clear planning in your transcript. No exceptions. If you will have in fact knocked out the correct English Classes, Calculus, Econs, Lit and Writing (2011 only), Stats, and the 7 Course Breadth, then I’d say go for it. If not, I would focus my energies on a different school. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions regarding Haas as I’m planning on applying next year, so I’ve done a good amount of research on UCB.</p>
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