<p>I’m asian and I play jazz guitar and am involved in model UN and other polititcal discussion forums… hopefully that’ll set me apart I guess :P</p>
<p>First, you need to legally change your Asian last name. Then, skip the ethnicity section of the app.</p>
<p>^I swear someone I know did this, or close enough. He couldn’t have been more of a sterotypical Asian, with math/science EC’s (I think he was Filipino and Chinese) but his last name was Sanchez (a lot of Filipino people have hispanic sounding names) and he didn’t identify what race he was on the app. He doesn’t speak spanish or anything. I mean, I’m 98% sure he is full Asian…</p>
<p>Needless to say, he got into some VERY GOOD schools…(but he was very smart so he probably had a very good chance anyways…but it probably helped a little)</p>
<p>Mikey175, I totally agree…well said! </p>
<p>The best thing that anyone can do is to make the best of what they have now. There are thousands of colleges in the United States to choose from. The college you ultimately attend is less significant in comparison to what you actually do in college to maximized your opportunities.</p>
<p>Disgusting and unfair, for the most part.</p>
<p>I dont think so…, it is your thinking that is disgusting, unfair and biased. Imagine this situation:</p>
<p>Student A:</p>
<ol>
<li>Has parents that are doctors.</li>
<li> Parents work with child so that he/she knows shapes, colors and how to write his/her name going into kindergarten.</li>
<li> Parents send child to a charter/private school where learning is encouraged. The child learns with other children in a hands on matter.</li>
<li>The child goes to school with other educationally-oriented students. Generally, they all want to do well, and the school offers many AP/IB classes.</li>
<li> The school also has teachers that make a decent amount of money, who are experienced and knowledgeable.<br></li>
<li> The student receives SAT prep as a school requirement.</li>
<li> The student obtains a literature education including Hamlet, Latin Studies, 4 years of language, Beyond BC calc, and the student has a guidance counselor that is knowledgeable about top 20 schools.</li>
<li> Student has application fees, sat fees, graduation fees, and deposit fees paid for.</li>
<li> Parents are generally encouraging to the student and overjoyed when he/she gets into his/her dream college.</li>
</ol>
<p>Student B:</p>
<ol>
<li> Has parents that didnt graduate high school and/or dont know how to read of add fractions. These parents know nothing about the college process.</li>
<li> These parents are up to their knees in debt, and are absolutely unable and unwilling to help the child afford college, and encourages not going to college at all and entering the workforce right away so child can contribute to family expenses.</li>
<li> Child grows up in slums, and parent A drinks, and Parent B is Bipolar and cant afford medical insurance for his/her medication.</li>
<li> Parents neglect child, who isnt even sure of his/her name going into kindergarten. He/she goes to a crappy public school for kindergarten, who attempts to teach 4 year old kids that cant even read with crappy worksheets. Rooms have no hands-on activities, and look plainer than a community college classroom. Class size in kindergarten is 40-50.</li>
<li>Child enters grade school/high school publically, and the students he/she learns with are a bad influence, are into drugs, and generally arent interested in gaining an education.</li>
<li> Teachers are underqualified, and get paid 25k a year. School is one of the worst in the state.</li>
<li> Kid enters his/her senior year not ever reading hamlet. The class spends an entire month learning how to read a 5 paragraph essay, and the child’s school doesnt even offer calculus or physics as options.</li>
<li>Since no one goes to college, guidance counselor is not knowledgable about any schools but local ones, which are tier 3/4.</li>
<li> Parents have no desire for their child to go to college. In fact, the parents feel jealous that the child has more opportunity and is getting further than they did, and attempts to sabotage the child’s efforts when trying to enter college.</li>
<li> Parents cannot afford high school graduation fees, deposit, doesnt know how to fill out financial paperwork/ cant read past a 3rd grade level. Parents also dont pay the application fees or sat fees.</li>
<li> Child, since going to a place with no opportunity, is unprepared to take the SAT and does very lousy.</li>
<li> Getting into college for child b is one thing, actually ATTENDING college is another. Parents make fun of child because of all of the debt he/she will be in and how he/she is going to fail out.</li>
</ol>
<p>Just because child B does lousy on the sat does not mean child B has less of a potential to learn the material. Child b was simply hindered by others, while child a was encouraged.</p>
<p>Therefore, child B should have a few points added to his/her application for the troubles he/she went through that child A didnt. You cannot say a 2100 sat score from child b (who came from a school where the val has a 1500) is the same as a 2100 sat score from child a, who went to a school where a 2100 was merely average.</p>
<p>I was talking about race. I don’t think that you should have better chances because you’re black and hispanic. Everyone has opportunities around them no matter what. It’s unfair that a black kid with 1800s gets into Harvard with less amazing stats than as asian. Being black or hispanic doesn’t even mean they don’t have access to tutoring. I just think the whole race thing is disgusting, and colleges should consider economics instead of race.</p>
<p>lets say a black kid has sub 2000 SAT scores and gets into HYP wuld you say that kid only got in due to Affirmative action</p>
<p>But child B could be white, asian, hispanic, or hispanic. Affirmative Action is racism and although it may help me with getting into college it truly is an injustice.</p>
<p>This is one of those threads that reminds me that I need to stop visiting this site.</p>
<p>what i don’t like is whenever a black kid says they got into harvard people assume they must have had a less than average SAT score</p>
<p>I would say AA played a role. But that’s just me.</p>
<p>I’m Asian and got into my HYP college with less than that. Should my admission be questioned? Then why question a black kid? He can’t win for trying – can u imagine every accomplishment you make being filtered through the “he’s only here b/c he’s black”
lens? C’mon.</p>
<p>schools are making decisions based on a variety of factors. should Columbia have rejected Obama’s transfer application in favor of a math-oriented Asian student with better numbers? of course not. Obama will bring prestige to Columbia for as long as Columbia exists.</p>
<p>I’m just saying if you look at their stats they are definitely below the stats of a ton of applicants who got rejected…most of them, not all.</p>
<p>Wow, that went right over your head.</p>
<p>You wouldnt last a year in the hood.</p>
<p>“You wouldnt last a year in the hood.” </p>
<p>I think you are overestimating the time period by at least 11 1/2 months.</p>
<p>I would say it played a role as well. But you really can’t get mad at the kid, it wasn’t his fault.</p>
<p>I will say he had other excellent accomplishments.</p>
<p>“would you say that kid only got in due to Affirmative action” - no one gets into HYP only because of AA.</p>