<p>For what it’s worth, not all undergraduate research is good for all things people expect. Some places may be better for grad school preparation, others less so despite having very strong departments. For instance, my understanding is that at Brown, the Applied-Math Econ or Math-Econ tracks are excellent prep for graduate school, whereas the other econ tracks are not. Your goals for your econ degree may change the type of program you’d want to be in.</p>
<p>That being said, most any top school is going to be strong for undergraduates. The differences are larger for grad school in this field by a long shot.</p>
<p>It’s not strange at all. None of those other schools you listed has an UG business major the way Penn does.</p>
<p>On the graduate level for Economics, some order of Harvard, UChicago, Princeton, MIT, Stanford are considered the top five and have seen those five used as the base case in seeing where top Econ PhDs end up going. For UG, I don’t think it matters nearly as much in comparisons to other aspects of the school and recruiting opportunities.</p>
<p>But Gellino, Cal, Michigan and MIT all have major Economics and undergraduate Business programs, and nobody seems to forget about their Economics departments.</p>
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<p>Yes, but none of those have by far the #1 UG business program the way Penn does and as far as grad schools are concerned all of Berkeley, UMich, MIT are considered to have a better PhD in Econ than MBA program.</p>
<p>FWIW, US News ranks econ graduate programs this way (note that this is basically a PA score, heavily dependent on faculty reputations among peer institutions—not irrelevant to undergrad program quality):</p>
<p>To answer the OP’s original question, Harvard and Princeton are by consensus tops among the Ivies, followed closely by Yale, then probably Penn and Columbia in that order. But if you confine yourself to the Ivies you’ll miss out on most of the top economics programs in the nation.</p>
<p>And yes, Minnesota and Wisconsin ARE that good in this field, Minnesota roughly on a par with Penn and Columbia.</p>
<p>I’m wondering why Dartmouth has a relatively low economics rep when it is probably the 2nd most involved school with Wall Street (Penn would have to be first due to Wharton). Does this mean economics and business have little correlation with each other?</p>
<p>^I’m pretty sure that Dartmouth is tied to Wall Street through its strong Business School. Business is not pure economics, though a lot of what one learns in a business program is derived from economic thought. Business is more of an “applied economics”, if you will.</p>
<p>The economics department being discussed here is the social science, so even though an Economics degree can lead to success in Business, we’re not talking about Wharton or its peers. Not to say that there isn’t a strong correlation between strong business programs and strong econ programs. This is usually the case. (e.g. Penn, Michigan, NYU)</p>
<p>“I’m wondering why Dartmouth has a relatively low economics rep when it is probably the 2nd most involved school with Wall Street (Penn would have to be first due to Wharton). Does this mean economics and business have little correlation with each other?” The 2nd most involved? Uh no, you’re forgetting Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, UChicago, etc… Yes, Dartmouth is very involved on Wall Street but that doesn’t mean there undergrad econ program is awesome, it means that they have a lot of students who want to go to Wall Street and that they have a big alumni network on Wall Street (from Tuck, their graduate business school). But I wouldn’t say that Dartmouth is the preeminent school for Wall Street and it certainly isn’t #2, although it is definitely up there</p>
<p>Well from what I’ve heard Dartmouth is the 2nd most-connected school to Wall Street. I don’t have any evidence to support that, but it’s what people seem to often say.</p>
<p>Monstor, Dartmouth is certainly very highly recruited on Wall Street. however, I think Wharton and Harvard have the edge as the top 2. After those two, I can think of several universities/programs that are on par with Dartmouth, including Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown, MIT, Michigan, Penn, Stanford, UVa and a few others. Of those 15 universities, I would say Dartmouth quite possibly has the strongest ties to Wall Street by a small margin, but Wharton and Harvard are the top 2.</p>
<p>This said, quality of Economics department and Wall Street recruiting are not always correlated. For example, Chicago and Northwestern have two of the best Econ departments in the world, but their presence on Wall Street is not as heavily felt as say Georgetown or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>“This said, quality of Economics department and Wall Street recruiting are not always correlated. For example, Chicago and Northwestern have two of the best Econ departments in the world, but there presence on Wall Street is not as heavily felt as say Georgetown or Dartmouth.” Yeah, thanks Alexande that’s what I was trying to get at. Sorry monstor, it was no offense to Dartmouth I was just trying to say that the ranking of the econ program and reputation on Wall Street is not the same. Do you go to Dartmouth? I go to Cornell</p>
<p>Haha don’t worry, I’m not offended; I don’t even go to Dartmouth and I only know 1 person going there, I mostly just wanted some clarification if economics had much to do with Wall Street.</p>
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