<p>haha schwaby rofl</p>
<p>I think that it becomes all relative:
is HYP going to be harder to get into, yes because you have approx 20,000 people applying for a set # (example 2000 ) admissions which means the school is going to be seen as more selective (10%). </p>
<p>Dartmouth has approximately 12,000 students applying for 2000 (16%) acceptances to yeild 1050 spots in the freshman class, they are going to come off as being less selective, thus easier to get into than HYP.</p>
<p>I agree with the posters that stated this is not a good strategy which to apply to a college unless one is just a prestige whore where the goal is to say that thy go to an Ivy and any IVY will do. Each college has it own unique culture and I find it hard to believe that the person who loves busy locatiions Harvard, Columbia is going to find that same love at really rural Dartmouth.</p>
<p>The person who wants the core curriculum of Columbia, may not want the distribution requirements of Dartmouth or the full freedom of choice that Brown offers. Someone who wants the business curriculm of Wharton or the Huntsman Program at Penn is not going to find it at Princeton.</p>
<p>OP really needs to do hs/her homework to find a school that meets thir needs.</p>
<p>I agree with sybbie. I only applied to 3 Ivies (Columbia ED, Penn and Yale) because they offered what I needed in both mathematics and music. </p>
<p>Just for the sake of the OP, here is how I would rate it:</p>
<p>Yale
Harvard
Columbia (Rejects 50% ED and overall acceptance rate is 12%)
Princeton
Dartmouth
Brown
Penn
Cornell</p>
<p>Mensa, you've received some good advice: don't try to game the system. Put your ED/SCEA chip on the school that's the best fit for <em>you</em>. If you don't it may be very sad if you find yourself wondering "What if?"</p>
<p>Jaug, you realize that you're implying that Columbia has a 50% ED acceptance rate?</p>
<p>No he's saying 50% are rejected. The rest are deferred and accepted. However SEAS at columbia does have a 50% ED acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Ok. The most disagreement seems to be on Brown. I thought it was so hot these days that it rejects many students who get into HY. Is it harder than Penn CAS?</p>
<p>Why does everyone think Penn is so easy to get in?!? It's definately NOT that easy...wait until April and see. Anyway, here's my opinion</p>
<p>Harvard/Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell</p>
<p>According to the US News report 2005, Yale is most selective. ....and it also has the lowest EA/ED acceptance rate of the ivies this year.</p>
<p>The best ED strategy looks like applying ED to Brown or Penn. Right? The only way I'll get into an IVY is to game the system to the max.</p>
<p>Yale
Harvard
Princeton
Columbia
Brown
Dartmouth
UPenn
Cornell</p>
<p>objectively, couldn't you just take the percentage they let in?</p>
<p>"...objectively, couldn't you just take the percentage they let in?...</p>
<p>No, because the applicant pools are not uniform. H and Y in particular get a huge number of applications from people who just want to take a shot at the big prize</p>
<p>"The best ED strategy looks like applying ED to Brown or Penn. Right? The only way I'll get into an IVY is to game the system to the max."</p>
<p>In my opinion, you're looking at it all the wrong way. Going to an Ivy just isn't the biggest deal in the world. You need to go to a college that you like based on its own merits, not one that happens to be in a hundred-year-old athletic conference.</p>
<p>This is especially silly with regards to ED. Applying ED indicates that that is your first choice university, so apply ED at your true first choice. You don't want to get stuck somewhere you hate just because it has that label. Brown and UPenn are very different schools, as are the rest of the Ivies.</p>
<p>"Jaug, you realize that you're implying that Columbia has a 50% ED acceptance rate?"</p>
<p>To round.....the ED this year was about 50 percent rejected, 25 admitted, 25 deferred. And For regular decision, last year the acceptance rate was 8 percent. Because of its size, in RD, Columbia becomes practically as selective as HYP.</p>
<p>Mensa, as BoP suggests, you're looking at it all wrong: the goal shouldn't be to get into an Ivy. It should be to get into a good school that will give you the best undergrad educational experience <em>for you</em>. If you're a free spirit, putting up with Columbia's core for four years will drive you nuts; if you're not the outdoorsy & drinking type and you clike city entertainment, four years at Dartmouth will be Purgatory. If you like challenging classroom discussions, guess what? Harvard probably isn't for you. Go for the essence of what you want, not a superficial label.</p>
<p>Or, to put it another way, before you find the right answers, first you must find the right questions.</p>
<p>Yeah, my post was dumb. Sorry.</p>
<p>What if for example you get admitted ED by Columbia and you are an international who has applied for financial aid. But it turns out that you dont get a penny from columbia, what must you then? Or does columbia reject you if they see that you dont have the funds to study there</p>
<p>this rating system makes Cornell look bad. Cornell's only ranked so low becuase of its large campus and student body. Cornell is the largest of the ivies and there more accepts many more students. the same amount of kids apply to Cornell as any other ivy school (ballpark), but its just that Cornell can afford to accept more with its larger campus. Therefore, its acceptance is relatively high</p>
<p>hmm.. </p>
<p>The majority rated Brown and Dartmouth higher than penn in rank.</p>
<p>Can u give me reasons for it? </p>
<p>I always thought it was Penn > Brown > Dartmouth</p>