<p>in order of easiest to get into... and consider using ed on each</p>
<p>upenn... columbia seas... cornell engineering... cornell cas... upenn seas... thanks... i am just wondering where i want to use my ed, i don't want to waste it on a school i can't get into... i like the 5 equally, but i'm a borderline candidate and i want the best chance i can get to get into one of them...</p>
<p>columbia engineering is probably hardest. upenn- easier to get in engineering, harder arts and sciences. don't waste it on cornell. what was the other one again?</p>
<p>I actually disagree. Penn College is the hardest here by a significant margin.</p>
<ol>
<li>Upenn</li>
<li>Cornell CAS</li>
<li>Penn SEAS/ Columbia SEAS</li>
</ol>
<p>What do you mean by "don't waste it on Cornell"...?</p>
<p>Also, these are all particularly easy ED compared to RD except for Penn College.</p>
<p>so don't use ed on penn? unless it's seas?</p>
<p>Well it depends how strong you really are, but pretty much its the hardest of those by far ED.</p>
<p>um... not extremely strong... 1490 old sats... about 2100 hopefully new ones :) um... 3.7 uw... 4.6 w gpa... fairly good ecs...</p>
<p>One would have to be foolish to underestimate Columbia SEAS. Don't let the relatively high acceptance rate fool you, like U of Chicago, this is a self selective applicant pool, and its defintely above Penn SEAS. </p>
<p>Also, SEAS almost always has higher average SAT scores than Columbia College, and its filled with those barely rejected from MIT.</p>
<p>I totally disagree. Its also very heavily stats oriented, so ECs wont matter nearly as much there as other places. Penn College ED is much harder.</p>
<p>"I totally disagree. Its also very heavily stats oriented, so ECs wont matter nearly as much there as other places."</p>
<p>Obviously ECs are important, but unless one is a recruited athlete or a talented artist/musician....ECs really aren't going to make up for low SAT scores (though I agree the very rare student who started a multi-national corp. in his spare time might be cut some slack on the SATs...but other than that ECs won't trump SATs). Even if you look at the middle 50% of the SAT ranges, Columbia SEAS still beats Penn SEAS and Penn College (that lower 25% should account for the recruited athletes, amazing singers, piano players, people who invented a time machine, etc.)</p>
<p>so... where would the 1490/2100ish score fall?</p>