Rank top 10 national universities and LACs in the same list

<p>It's not a common thing to do, because Liberal Arts Colleges and National Universities are so different.</p>

<p>But, in your complete subjective opinions, rank the top 10 schools at the undergraduate level, drawing from both camps. If research is important to you, then rank accordingly. If school community is most important, then rank as such. Etc, etc, based on whatever you want. I'd be interested to see where the LACs cross-over, in your diverse opinions...</p>

<p>Undergrad Education:</p>

<p>Top 10 (no particular order):</p>

<p>Swarthmore
UChicago
Princeton
Amherst
Williams
Rice
Pomona
Carleton
Reed
Grinnell</p>

<p>Top 10:
Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Williams
Amherst
UC Berkley
Pomona
Wesleyan
UT-Austin
UCLA</p>

<p>Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Stanford
Williams
Amherst
Massachusetts Institute of Technology(MIT)
California Institute of Technology(CalTech)
Swarthmore
University of Chicago</p>

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<p>This was actually my exact list.</p>

<p>I’ll give top 20:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard, Stanford, MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale, Berkeley, Caltech</li>
<li><p>Northwestern, JHU, UPenn, Columbia, Duke</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell, Michigan, Rice</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia, Mudd, Williams, Amherst</p></li>
<li><p>CMU, Georgia Tech, Swarthmore, UVA</p></li>
</ol>

<p>RML, you think Berkeley is on the same level as Yale? That’s ridiculous!</p>

<p>He also apparently thinks Chicago is not on the top 20 list, and Georgia Tech is. And that there are two Columbias.</p>

<p>lol, and Columbia is both #8 and #16…</p>

<p>Davidson
Duke
Emory
Rice
UNC
UVA
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Washington & Lee
William & Mary</p>

<p>“Based on whatever I want,” right?</p>

<p>ya, basically what you think are the 10 best colleges in the nation</p>

<p>Completely arbitrary but</p>

<p>Uchicago
Grinnell
Reed
Swarthmore
MIT
Caltech
HYP
Stanford
Oxbridge (yes, I’m aware this is a portmanteau)</p>

<p>This is based on their academic programs in general; obviously some schools (e.g UIUC, CMU) are going to be fantastic in certain disciplines, but the above is for schools that IMO have strong academic programs overall.</p>

<p>I agree with smallcollegesFTW’s top 9, more or less:</p>

<p>Swarthmore
UChicago
Princeton
Amherst
Williams
Rice
Pomona
Carleton
Reed</p>

<p>but not sure that grinnell should be #10…maybe haverford</p>

<p>Here is my take for Berkeley vs Yale. </p>

<p>Yale is better in Law, performing arts, history, and medical school (Berkeley doesn’t have a medical school). And Yale is harder to get into. An average Yale undergraduate is smarter than an average Berkeley student. </p>

<p>But Berkeley has a more distinguished faculty. This is extremely important because if you want to become the best, you want to learn from the best. Berkeley is much stronger in science and engineering. Berkeley also has a better business school, better education school, better social science departments. Yale and Berkeley are about equal in humanities.</p>

<p>Princeton
Harvard
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Rice
Haverford
University of Chicago
Reed</p>

<p>First, HYPSMC (national universities).</p>

<p>Then, AWSP (LACs).</p>

<p>Yale
Wesleyan
Dartmouth
Stanford
Williams
Columbia
UT-Austin
Michigan
UC-Berkeley
William&Mary</p>

<p>Stanford
MIT
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Penn
Cal
Michigan
UVA</p>

<p>(in no particular order)</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale
Princeton
MIT
Stanford
UChicago
Northwestern
Michigan
Cal (Berkeley)
Columbia</p>

<p>Dartmouth
UPenn - Wharton
UChicago
Yale
Stanford
Harvard
Williams
Princeton
Swarthmore
Caltech</p>