<p>Can someone provide some rankings, or just list some good colleges for geosciences and environmental sciences, beyond just the Ivy-League and other such caliber schools?</p>
<p>A quote - </p>
<p>In August, UCSD was named the "hottest" institution in the country for students to study science by the 2006 Kaplan/Newsweek College Guide.</p>
<p>Contact CollegeHelp
He has the gourman lists and rugg's recommendations.</p>
<p>Gourman undergraduate ranking for geology/geoscience</p>
<p>Caltech
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
Stanford
Harvard
U Chicago
UCLA
Yale
UC Berkeley
Cornell
Penn State UP
U Texas Austin
U Wisconsin Madison
U Arizona
UC Santa Barbara
Brown
Virginia Tech
SUNY Stony Brook
U Michigan Ann Arbor
Johns Hopkins
Northwestern
U Washington
Indiana U Bloomington
U Minnesota
UC Davis
U Colorado Boulder
U Illinois Champaign-Urbana
USC
Arizona State
UC Santa Cruz
U Miami
U Utah
U Mass Amherst
UNC Chapel Hill
U Oregon
Texas A&M
SUNY Albany
Ohio State
U Kansas
U South Carolina Columbia
U Wyoming
U Cincinnati
U New Mexico
Rice
U Iowa
Louisiana State
Oregon State Columbus
U Hawaii Manoa
Michigan State</p>
<p>Gourman Report Undergrad environmental sciences
environmental sciences
Harvard
MIT
Cornell
UC Berkeley
UC Davis
U Michigan Ann Arbor
U Penn
UVA
SUNY Coll Env Sci Forestry
JHU
Purdue
U Minnesota</p>
<p>Ruggs Recommendations geology</p>
<p>LACs
Most selective:
Amherst
Barnard
Bates
Bowdoin
Bryn Mawr
Carleton
Colgate
Colorado College
Colorado School of Mines
Franklin and Marshall
Furman
SUNY Geneseo
Lafayette
Lehigh
Pomona
Skidmore
Smith
Washington & Lee
Whitman</p>
<p>Very Selective:
Allegheny
Beloit
Centenary (LA)
Cornell College (not the Ivy)
Denison
Earlham
Guilford
Hope
Millsaps
New Mexico Inst Mining Tech
St Lawrence
St Thomas (MN)
South Dakota School of Mines
C of Wooster</p>
<p>Ruggs environmental studies</p>
<p>LACs
Allegheny
Bates
Berry (GA)
Bethany (WV)
Bowdoin
Brenau
Bryn Mawr
Centenary
Clark
Colby
Connecticut C
Davis and Elkins
Denison
Dickinson
Doane
Drake
Dubuque
Earlham
Eckerd
Findlay
SUNY Fredonia
Green Mountain (VT)
Juniata
Kalamazoo
Lake Forest
Lynchburg (VA)
Macalester
MiddleburyMillsaps
Monmouth (IL)
New Mexico Inst Mining and Tech
UNC Ashville
Northland (WI)
Oberlin
Ohio Wesleyan
Pitzer
SUNY Plattsburgh
Ramapo
Randolph Macon
Ripon
Sacred Heart (CT)
St Anselm (NH)
St Johns (MN)
St Lawrence (NY)
St Michaels (VT)
Salisbury State (MD)
College of Santa Fe
Sarah Lawrence
Shepard (WV)
Stanford (CA)
SUNY College of Environ Science & Forestry
Susquehanna
Valparaiso
Warren Wilson
Webster (MO)
Wesleyan (CT)
Western Washington
West Virginia Wesleyan
Westfield State
Whitman
U Wisconsin Stevens Point</p>
<p>some universities for environmental studies from Rugg's</p>
<p>U Colorado
Florida Gulf Coast
U Florida
Hawaii Pacific
U New Hampshire
New Mexico State
Oregon State
South Florida
Southwestern (TX)
U Vermont
Washington State
Western Washington
U Wyoming</p>
<p>Can anyone give me some advice for a strong physics program undergraduate? My S is interested in particle physics and astromony. Of course the obvious are Stanford, Cal Tech, MIT etc. Looks like my S may make NMSF here in Texas and then hopefully NMF. Since this degree will require graduate and post graduate work we are looking to try and save some money in the undergraduate level. I have looked at the thread that lists those schools that offer NMF full tuition and was just wondering if anyone knows about schools like, Univerisity of Tulsa, University of Oklahoma and others on the list. Texas A&M and UTexas are of course options but believe it or not the $ is not that great.
P.S. My S is going to apply to Stanford and Cornell and apply for ROTC airforce scholarships. But I just wanted to have a serious back up plan in place. I have searched and read until I'm crossed eyed, I guess I am just wondering if anyone has any personal knowledge. Thank you!</p>
<p>^As an FYI, if your son is planning to do a PhD in physics (or any other science), his PhD program will likely come fully funded -- almost all PhD programs in the sciences offer full tuition remission and a living stipend as a standard package. Your tax dollars at work. ;)</p>
<p>So if you want to save money in general, that's fine, but you don't need to save money for graduate school if it's going to be in science.</p>
<p>I appreciate your quick and insightful reply. I have a daughter who is applying to law school and have not spent as much time researching the sciences at the post graduate level. One thing at a time I guess. What is it they say about eating an elephant?</p>
<p>Of course. :) It seems to be something that a lot of people don't know, so I try to share whenever possible!</p>
<p>molliemae-
Cornell is very good for physics, applied physics (engineering physics), and astrophysics/astronomy. It is a top-10 school in particle physics, quantum physics, and condensed matter physics.</p>
<p>Cornell's Arecibo Radio Observatory in Puerto Rico is a wonderful opportunity. Internships there are part work, part summer camp. Great lecture series, many visiting astronomers/physicists, great friendships with students from around the country. There is not much to do at night besides work or get-togethers on the hut porches. Met the woman who discovered pulsars this summer. </p>
<p>Arecibo has a very huge dish, spherical...much bigger-looking in person. Wonderful permanent staff from all over the world who took turns with internationally themed dinners. Watched dvds that featured the dish including Golden Eye, Contact, and an episode of X-Files. Saw the hut where Jodie Foster and Mathew McConaughey made out. Swam in a bay with algae that glows in the dark. Rainforest hikes, huge caverns, Old San Juan, gorgeous beaches...along with hard work. 185 steps up from the dish to the VSQ (visiting scientist quarters) through woods with lots of lizards and snakes (harmless). The road around the dish is a good jogging track. If your son goes to Cornell, he should apply for an internship at Arecibo.</p>
<p>Contact is an awesome movie! When Matthew McConaughey says "I hear the locals call it el radar!" LOL</p>
<p>Thank you for the info about Cornell. We are going to an information session from Cornell rep's in our area next month and now my S will be more informed on what questions to ask. I am still wondering if anyone knows anything about the universities that are not in the top tier. I sure do appreciate this discussion site!</p>
<p>Thanks for the rankings. I'm not exactly sure what major I want to go into, although I do know that I enjoy learning about the geosciences, as well as about the environment. How closely is environmental engineering related to this?</p>
<p>collegehelp - does Gourman or Rugg's have lists for natural resource/environmental management and policy, or environmental biology? Thanks.</p>
<p>For astro type stuff, check out UC Santa Cruz and U. of Arizona (tuscon). Also, UC Santa Barbara has an absolutely incredible physics group. Their college of creative studies allows for extremely close and intimate contact between the top professors in the field and students (all of whom do independent research). Unknown to most is the pile of nobel prizes that school has been accumulating in physics the past few years and college of creative studies is the best way to get your hands dirty with those nobel winning professors.</p>
<p>Cheers,
CUgrad</p>
<p>Case has strong astronomy and physics programs. Astronomy undergrads are very well-cared for.</p>
<p>Other physics/astronomy schools-
State schools: U Arizona, ASU, UCSD, Penn State, U Colorado... most big state schools have excellent programs, actually, because they get so much federal funding and they have good size.
Good but not Ivy "Tech" Schools- Carnegie-Mellon, Case Western Reserve, Rochester, RPI, New Mexico Tech
It's worth noting that a good way to find good physics programs is to look into schools that have good engineering programs. This is because the two are pretty closely linked.</p>