Rant about NYU. I'm excited, but....

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<p>I can say that I'm VERY excited about NYU. Only two months away and I'll be submerged in the rich Manhattan life, going out to hot cafe's at night, hustling with street vendors, taking out 2AM trips to hookah lounges, or even just relaxing in a nice sizzling Korean BBQ restaurant.</p>

<p>The only thing that really makes this 2 months further than it should be is the cost. Almost every week I'm getting mail home (and every other matriculated student knows this) telling me something that I have to PAY for. Fridge, health plan (in case I die?!), linens, AND textbooks. In all honesty, this is making my parents very nervous and upset. I know I decided to come to a very expensive school but I have scholarships totaling $26,000 and I'm only really paying about $24,000 a year to NYU. That's fine because Stafford Loan and etc is helping pay for everything else. The PLUS loan is as well but I may not even get that loan...</p>

<p>Well, the problem is that my parents can't finance all the other payments. The $1000 due on June 1 was a hassle and I started working to pay back $500 of that to my parents. I finally did (thankfully) with only $53 left in my checking account. Well, in any case, it didn't end there.</p>

<p>I started working this summer to afford new clothes (planning to totally revamp my style) but every week there's a new thing that NYU <em>recommends</em> that I should get (student supply kit...$56 for the "The Dean's List" supplies? ***? I sincerely hope no one is going to buy that....). I looked online and I might have to take out several private loans that are NOT co-signed with my parents. That's because my parents have really bad credit and I most likely will get rejected from the PLUS loan (I applied like 3 days ago; heard no response yet). Thankfully, some private loans will just be under my name and don't ask for my parents SS number (I'm 17, not 18, so I can't even have a credit card until next December).</p>

<p>I feel pressured to take out a loan to cover my textbook costs, linens, fridge + microwave, and whatever other thing NYU sends to generate more money as the summer comes to an end. I don't even have any other option- I HAVE to take out a loan otherwise I just CAN'T afford NYU. Doesn't it suck to come to that conclusion after acceptance, graduation high school, and only 2 months left until I move in?</p>

<p>Oh, and that's not the end of that. I'm part of LSP (I guess I was too versatile for NYU- science awards + humanities awards + AP's in all these other subjects + health related EC's..not to mention I signed up as "undeclared" as my major). I was bummed out at first but I got over it.</p>

<p>Well so a few days ago I called the LSP adviser and told her I wanted to major in Biochemistry and a language (Korean). And you know what her response was? "Umm...well...basically if you plan to double major and Pre-Health or whatever....you can expect to spend your whole life at NYU basically. So I would rethink that and when you come for orientation talk to the other advisers about it because it doesn't seem like you can do that without taking a bunch of summer classes or spending an extra year here."
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<p>***?!</p>

<p>I know LSP is just some required courses like the MAP that CAS students get, but to say that I should "rethink" what I have already decided (because these two are my passions) because of the major hindrance the LS program is causing is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. I'm NOT going to change what I want to pursue in life just because the Liberal Studies Program is going to be a b*tch about interfering in my future. Honestly.</p>

<p>Plus it makes no sense. My adviser didn't realize that whatever classes there are for the Pre-Health track are the SAME requirements for Biochemistry. Pre-Health requires you to take Calc I, Bio, Chem, O-chem, Physics, and those ARE the SAME requirements for Biochemistry but with a few more classes. For Korean- well it's just learning the language and taking classes about the culture.</p>

<p>I'm excited for NYU but I hate this. I know that I could have gone to another college but in reality, NYU was my dream school anyway. My friend said that there's a way to get out of LSP at the end of freshman year and I'm thinking of asking if I can do that on orientation because I DON'T want to change my majors around to accommodate what NYU wants from me out of these 4 years. How dare NYU make me compromise my future goals to keep me in track for graduating in 4 years- or else I'll be forced to take summer classes (MORE MONEY) and even stay an extra year (EVEN MORE MONEY). And isn't taking $50,000 a year from me ENOUGH?</p>

<p>Jeez. In any case, we all know LSP was made to keep CAS's admission rate low while having NYU generate more money.</p>

<p>Thoughts, comments, advice?</p>

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<p>to be completely honest? pre med and a double major really DOES equal summer classes or an extra year, no matter how you slice it. </p>

<p>the Korean major alone has 32 credits. [Department</a> of East Asian Studies – New York University](<a href=“http://www.nyu.edu/pages/east.asian.studies/undergraduate/major.html]Department”>http://www.nyu.edu/pages/east.asian.studies/undergraduate/major.html) </p>

<p>32 credits is eight classes. eight classes = extra year.</p>

<p>it isn’t LSP. i’m a double major and i’m graduating a year late. my majors have nothing to do with each other, politics and media. CAS and Steinhardt.</p>

<p>my roommate is the same way. she’s taking an extra year for anthropology and studio art.</p>

<p>for double majors that have similar requirements, it’s possible to graduate within the four years. it’s not the restrictions of LSP, it’s just numbers. NYU is not forcing you to compromise anything. you could minor in Korean. to be honest, if you’re really thinking of med school, you want your GPA as high as possible, and the Korean double major might drag you down. </p>

<p>if you were in CAS, it would be the exact same thing. </p>

<p>you were not LSP-ed because you were “too versatile”. you were probably LSP-ed due to numbers or one part of your application. </p>

<p>all colleges have those same expenses. the same lame linen service is at every college. so’s the fridge rental. so is the health insurance. (you don’t even NEED NYU’s health insurance, just use your current health plan.) it’s not just NYU, it’s college. you don’t need the linens or the fridge or most of the stuff that NYU sends you. </p>

<p>i know it’s frustrating, but it’s also part of college. there’s going to be expenses that you are not expecting. there’s going to be unexpected problems. you just have to roll with it and really think about what’s important. is Korean really your passion that you’re willing to double major in it? the minor is 16 credits, and you can attain language proficiency to the Advanced II level. you just won’t take the culture classes. you could probably take the culture classes in LSP. </p>

<p>and please don’t bash the program before you even step foot in it.</p>

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<p>Korean major?? What for?? TRUST ME, Pre-med ( Or pre- health) is definitely going to fill up your time. If you think like this…</p>

<p>“I can say that I’m VERY excited about NYU. Only two months away and I’ll be submerged in the rich Manhattan life, going out to hot cafe’s at night, hustling with street vendors, taking out 2AM trips to hookah lounges, or even just relaxing in a nice sizzling Korean BBQ restaurant.”</p>

<p>…you’re really really overhyping NYC. I have lived in NYC for about 4 years, and TRUST ME, it is absolutely NOT like that. My uncle owns two hookah lounges, and you cannot smoke unless you are 21 sorry to burst your bubble. Also “submerged” in manhattan life?? You’re going to Manhattan to study, not live life like Sex and the City.</p>

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<p>It’s true what missamericanpie says. I’m going to be pre-med at CAS and I was pretty much told right off that bat that double majoring is practically impossible without spending extra time. It’s simply too much with all of the pre-med and MAP requirements. Even though a lot of the Biochem major requirements match up with pre-med, there are still a number of classes you need to take outside of that. I know where you’re coming from. I would have loved to double major in Biology and Dramatic literature, but realistically it just wouldn’t work. So instead I’m opting for the Dramatic Lit minor because I don’t need it for any possible job I might pursue in the future but I’ll still get to study it.</p>

<p>You should definitely consider the Korean minor. That alone is five classes past the four language classes MAP requires you to take (give or take depending on what level you place into). You could always just take a couple culture classes you’re interested in with any extra space you have in your schedule. You don’t necessarily need to major, especially if a Korean major won’t even help yo with a fall back career plan. Don’t overload and kill yourself, college should be fun too right?</p>

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<p>First of all, do not waste your money buying any extra crap that NYU tells you to. Pay tuition, room/board, books, healthcare, and as for school supplies - a laptop, pens, calculator, notebooks and folders will do. You don’t need a fridge, microwave, TV, or special linens. Just get extra-long bedding from any local store. </p>

<p>LSP SUCKS if you’re not an Arts major! I applied Undecided and during Orientation, told my advisor I wanted to major in Neuroscience with a Genetics minor - they told me I wasn’t allowed to do this major as an LSP student! I had to meet with President Sexton and Dean Schwarzbach, I outlined all the specific classes I’m taking for the next 4 years + summers (I’m also preHealth btw). So I definitely share your frustration with LSP and I love NYU but hate this program - hey, at least they allow LSP students to study BioChem, we’re “banned” from Physics, Neuro, and Engineering, unless you get special permission from the Pres.</p>

<p>Either study Biochem or Korean, not both, make one a minor instead. Otherwise it’ll take you 5 years to graduate, maybe including summer classes - do you have that money? You’ll have 4 years Med school, then 3-5 years Residency - you can’t pay those loans back til your 30! I’d reccommend Biochem for the major, and Korean classes to learn the language.

This is a lie; I heard it too, and I’ve met personally with Pres Sexton to discuss my major and goals so I know for a fact you can’t go to CAS after 1 year - I believe you can try to get into Tisch though. Also Class of 2013 has more requirements than Class of 2012 for LSP, so that’s gonna be harder.</p>

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<p>Don’t spend the money on the linens or the fridge. Bring your own - it will be much cheaper and the quality will be better. Consider buying as many of your textbooks online and/or in used condition as possible - this will save you a lot of money.</p>

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<p>Sounds like you might not be able to afford this right now… I’d reconsider the spending, if I were you.</p>

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<p>NYU “recommends” it because it makes money for NYU. Don’t give in to advertising tactics - otherwise, in an ad-saturated city like NYC, you’re going to be broke real quick.</p>

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<p>Yes, it does suck. It would have better to realize this before May 1 or whatever the deadline is these days. </p>

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<p>Those are pretty much the requirements for majoring at any university. Double-majoring and being on the pre-med track wouldn’t fit into 8 semesters at any school. You’ve set some very ambitious plans for yourself, and those plans, as they are currently, are going to take some extra time. Unfortunately, as an undergraduate, time at a university equals money.</p>

<p>Get off your high horse. NYU doesn’t deserve any of your ire - they made you an offer and you took it. Now you have to live with it.</p>

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<p>The people I knew who left NYU did so for two big reasons: 1) NYU wasn’t all they thought it would be, and/or 2) they discovered they really couldn’t afford NYU. I’m concerned that you may end up in both categories.</p>

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<p>I just have to get this clear. Some hookah lounges (like in Steinway) don’t even check ID. I’ve done it a few times with my brother and his friends, but I’ve stopped just because I don’t like the feel of it (I’m not a bad person!). And I <em>am</em> submerging myself in Manhattan life because I do plan to have fun while studying as well. I only live 45 mins away from Manhattan so it’s not like I’m over-hyping anything since I’ve been there before. Oh and don’t ask <em>why</em> I want to do Korean despite doing Pre-Health too. People go to different lengths to achieve goals in their passions, it’s not only about convenience.</p>

<p>missamericanpie- Thank you so much for this candid and blunt post. I always felt that my friends going to other universities had it better, but now that I see that it ISN’T just LSP, it’s just how it rolls everywhere. And I guess you’re right. Korean double major or a minor? I’m not too worried about the culture classes because I can learn the culture through personal experiences. I really <em>do</em> just want to master the language (I’d like to go past the Advanced Korean II classes though…). I guess it’s my fault for not looking into the program more. I just still do feel that LSP is binding in many ways.</p>

<p>Lauren8822- That’s interesting. I thought CAS students had more options in their major selections. I didn’t know you also got told right from the start that double majoring won’t get done in 4 years. It depends, too. I really like Korean culture and I would love to major in it but in reality I just want to learn the language. As I’ve told missamericanpie, I can learn the culture on my own. You don’t need classes to learn a culture- a little bit of exposure can do the trick.</p>

<p>Alix2012- WOW. I can’t believe they told you off about your Neuroscience + Genetics minor. How did you meet President Sexton and Dean Schwarzbach? I MAY just have to do that too if worst comes to worst. Do you mind telling me how you managed to contact and meet with them? I tried looking for the Dean of Admissions contact number online but really found nothing. I can’t believe LSP would bar anyone from Physics, Engineering, and Neuro…that’s really ridiculous to me. I heard that people can’t even study International Relations in LSP. In any case, if I could meet with Pres. Sexton and the Dean, I could probably convince them to let me follow my plan of action (again this is if worst comes to worst). I wish people could’ve gotten out of LSP earlier than usual but too bad that myth is now debunked. I just hope it works out for the best for me. As a side note, I definitely DON’T want to take Algebra & Calculus because I know I can take on Calc I right off the bat as my 4th elective. Oh and that summer reading…</p>

<p>shades_children- You’re very candid too, lol. I know I have to suck it up, but sometimes this whole thing just gets to me. At least I’ve learned something here- DON’T BUY INTO NYU’S EXTRA CRAP. In any case, since you all have pretty much told me that double majoring cannot be done in 4 years with the requirements + 8 semester time, I should just tack on Korean as a minor. OH and you ARE right, I’ve already thought about transferring elsewhere after 2 years, but having that mindset might just ruin my NYU experience to begin with so I shouldn’t have that mentality as of now.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone for your inputs. I feel better that NYU isn’t as cynical as I thought it would be. I just felt down over this whole financial + restrictive thing. I think I do have more questions and you ALL have been more helpful than the LSP adviser I talked to.</p>

<p>I just hope that I can finish my Korean minor + Biochem major ON TIME. I do plan to take off a year after graduation for research + experience for med school. I don’t want to spend a 5th year studying at NYU because like said before, time = money.</p>

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<p>haha, i’ve definitely been to hookah bars before. and i’m not even 18 yet.</p>

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<p>These majors might be hard to do for LSP students in 4 years:
Mathematics
Engineering
Biochemistry
Neural Science
Combined BA/DDS program
Physics</p>

<p>I told my advisor right away I wanted to do Neuroscience + Genetics + PreMed + LSP. Well she told me that wasn’t gonna work and that I better go straighten it out with Dean Schwarzbach (he’s LSP dean, not CAS) and she arranged for me to meet with the Dean, who told me that my course load was too much, and I needed to carefully outline all my classes ahead of time, making sure I could fullfill every requirement, otherwise be prepared to do more than 4 years. Well I arranged it and met with him and Sexton quickly to approve my courses, and they gave me the ok to do it. I’m sure they’ll let you do Biochem, but I do advise you keep Korean as a minor rather than major. </p>

<p>Also, if you have any questions about PreMed or LSP at NYU, feel free to ask. Biochem and Neuro majors take similar classes the first two years.</p>

<p>and i’ve been to a hookah bar and i’m 18. :slight_smile: and most students have fakes too.</p>

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<p>Haha, you’re my hero Alix2012. Duking it out with the Dean and Sexton directly than with your LSP adviser. I would do that too but I feel my adviser would think she knows all and will try to tell me what’s “best.” If anything I wlli just ask my adviser to let me meet with the bigger men. I’m guessing though, Aliks, that every summer of yours was filled with classes? I was personally hoping of getting some research done over the summer than take more classes? How did your outlining work out?</p>

<p>And yeah…hookah lounges don’t even check ID. Most of them are too dark to see anything anyway, haha</p>

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<p>I’m really curious as to why you responded with, “People go to different lengths to achieve goals in their passions, it’s not only about convenience” when someone asked why you had to do a Korean major, when your entire post is about the inconveniences of NYU. If NYU is indeed your dream school, and you were indeed aware of all the costs attending NYU could entail, then why are you only discovering some of these inconveniences now? This isn’t even aimed just at you but at all high school students who choose “dream schools” but then neglect to look into the restrictions, requirements, costs, etc. that such schools entail. How do you think Alix2012 was able to meet with Sexton and other higher-ups? They clearly did the appropriate research and utilized all available resources to find a way to fix or at least find an adequate answer to their situation. Perhaps, as shades_children said, you should have done this as well before deciding to devote the next four years of your life to NYU. </p>

<p>But you can’t really go back and un-enroll now without losing a lot of money, so I’ll give you some advice. First of all, “revamping your style” should be the last thing on your mind if you have real concerns like affording textbooks and a medical insurance plan to worry about. Trust me, after the first couple of weeks of the semester, no one is going to really care about how you dress, and if they DO and don’t like it, you have 49,998 other NYU students to befriend, plus any of the millions of people that live in New York City. </p>

<p>Second, don’t come to NYU with your priorities set the way they are. If you have financial concerns, as many NYU students do, you can’t reasonably expect to be “submerged in the rich Manhattan life” the way you described it. Going out to cafes, hookah places, Korean BBQs, etc. adds up faster than you can buy a shoddy fake ID off the perpetually stoned Bob Marley wannabe on your floor (and in Manhattan, they definitely do check IDs in hookah places, particularly around NYU and in the EV, so you best be 18+). That’s not to say that you can’t have fun in the city if you’re not willing to pay $10 for a plastic Dixie cup of PBR. I suggest, again, that you become resourceful and start looking for cheap or free things to do. I’ll even help you out with a few sites: freenyc; flavorpill; Time Out NY. Check them every week, find the awesome events going on, and go to those. You might even enjoy doing the non-cliche stuff.</p>

<p>Third, don’t buy anything NYU recommends. Using certain resources (gee, I keep coming back to that), you can find pretty much anything you need at much cheaper prices. Also, contact your roommates to figure out who will bring the microwave, TV, whatever.</p>

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<p>to add on to NYUx2’s comments. . .</p>

<p>yes, they do check ID more aggressively around NYU, just because there are so many fakes. there ARE things called flashlights, and they use them to check ID at (gasp) hookah bars! and real bars! </p>

<p>i also have to question how much you prepared before you accepted the seat in LSP. you seem genuinely shocked at how NYU/LSP runs and it smacks of not looking before you leap. </p>

<p>CAS students are NOT told right off the bat that double majoring doesn’t work. in fact, some majors are required to double major, such as journalism. pre-med is just a special situation because there are so many required classes.</p>

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<p>missamericanpie, I didn’t mean that CAS students are told all double majors don’t work. I’m aware that that’s entirely possible. I was speaking specifically of CAS students who are pre-med, such as myself. We were told that it’s extremely difficult to do the pre-med and double major in time. Just wanted to clear that up.</p>

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<p>@lauren</p>

<p>sorry, i was skimming the OP’s comment on your comment. that was a reading comprehension fail, right there.</p>

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<p>Don’t buy anything besides textbooks/supplies, living NECESSITIES (not new plasma TVs and Bose speakers), and of course tuition/housing payments. You can find much better sheets at Bed Bath and Beyond for half the price NYU is offering for them. Just make sure they’re “twin extra long” sheets.</p>

<p>Save your money for the nightlife. You’re going to need it if you want to have a good time.</p>

<p>You do not have to be 21 to smoke hookah. Period. The strictest ones make sure you’re 18, but very, very few of them actually ID you. Just be careful; hookah can be very expensive and some places even charge you upwards of $15 for just sitting down.</p>

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<p>Thanks but no thanks. I didn’t ask someone to personally evaluate my life and transition into NYU. I didn’t ask for a second parent either, so if you had any advice on what I needed to know information about vs. criticizing what I plan to do, then I’d consider it. How I have fun and how I spend my money is my choice, not yours. Nor was I asking on how should I spend the money I earn this summer. Also I DID do research on NYU. I just know that what the NYU officials tell you against what you hear from students themselves contrasts A LOT. In addition, Alix2012’s adviser led him to the Dean and President Sexton, he didn’t dig out the contact info himself (did you skim this thread and jump to your conclusions?). And the reason I say I can go to different lengths for my passions is because clearly NuclearPakistan1 was only asking that question in a rhetorical sense.</p>

<p>missamericanpie, I read all I could about LSP but I looked right through their flutter-words introduction to the program. I want the real deal of what LSP is, what the requirements are, what you can/cannot do, and that’s why I came here. I actually came here back in December when I got accepted ED (I didn’t even know LSP existed when I applied ED. Apparently it’s a program NYU doesn’t brag about).</p>

<p>In any case, thanks for all your help. I’m considering the Korean minor and the expenses. No linens nor fridge for me, and I know where I can get the “twin queen size” bedsheet (I think that’s the size). All in all, I do need a private loan anyway.</p>

<p>And guys, really? The discussion isn’t emphasizing hookah lounges. Thanks for the ID info but I stated I don’t really do it anymore. Maybe occasionally while at NYU, who knows (who cares?).</p>

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<p>I’m sorry for telling you not to buy anything NYU tells you to buy, reinforcing the primary importance of certain things such as textbooks and medical insurance, and trying to recommend ways to have fun without exacerbating your obvious financial concerns, the very same ones you repeatedly alluded to in stating how NYU has inconvenienced you. Perhaps if you had taken the time to actually read what I wrote instead of having such a visceral reaction to the first paragraph, you would have found that I was giving you advice. </p>

<p>However, why you decided to jump down MY throat and not anyone else’s, particularly since I was not the first one to ask either why you hadn’t found out this information before nor was I the first to question your financial priorities (I was, however, the first to give you plausible alternatives in regards to enjoying the city without breaking the bank) is beyond me. If you don’t want personal evaluations, don’t offer personal information such as your financial woes on a public forum. Simple as that.</p>

<p>Oh, and by the way, I didn’t skim this thread, which should have been obvious considering the fact that I referenced other posts and quoted yours as well. However, speaking to an advisor does count as being resourceful, particularly if someone, like Alix2012, manages to do so in an effective enough way to get access to those in superior positions since not every advisor is going to say, “Oh, go speak to Sexton” the moment you stay in their office or on the phone longer than 30 seconds.</p>

<p>In fact, despite the fact that you seemingly rejected any other advice I gave you, here’s some wholly neutral, general advice you should remember during your entire time at NYU: persistence and thoroughness will get you much farther in your quest for solutions to your problems than anything else. Since you were told that you couldn’t do Biochem/pre-med and Korean while in LSP, follow up on that with someone else; pester the LSP and CAS offices until you get concrete answers from someone who really knows what they’re talking about (i.e. any of the Deans (try Dean Kalb in CAS), or someone higher up if you are being stonewalled); call the pre-med advisor (I think it might still be Mazza) as well as the head of the Korean department to see what they have to say; figure out the exact requirements for each major (which you seem to have done already) and run the numbers a few times, taking into account LSP and MAP requirements (you can take away Nat Sci and the language requirement, as well as the Expressive Cultures requirement, and probably QR), to figure out exactly how many classes/credits you’ll have to fulfill; if you have any experience learning Korean, remember that that will help place you at a higher level. Seriously, call EVERYONE you can think of to call, note down their name and when you spoke to them, write down what they say, and follow up with them if there was some ambiguity. If you email someone, try CC-ing their superior. Share any information you found if you think it contradicts what the person is telling you and have them carefully explain any discrepancy (these are the conversations for which you should definitely take down the person’s name). And if all else fails, have your parents call.</p>

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<p>I apologize. Lately because of this NYU fiasco I haven’t been taking it well and I’m very reactive to the environment around me. I know now that like everyone else, you’re offering the best advice you could.</p>

<p>Should I be contacting everyone I can (what you mentioned in your last paragraph) during this whole summer before I move in, or should I do it AFTER meeting with my adviser during orientation? I feel that the earlier the better.</p>

<p>Taking away Natural Science/QR/Expressive Cultures/Language requirements would be great (besides the fact that QR is going to be replaced with Calculus). It would make room for replacing them with my major classes. I just HOPE that if I propose that idea, it doesn’t get rejected. I think that I should, though, attempt to plan out the next 4 years of NYU in terms of classes so that I can see for myself the general idea of what I have to during the summer, if I can fit in all the credits, etc etc. Also, it would give my adviser the insight that I <em>am</em> serious about what I want to pursue.</p>

<p>Thanks nyux2 for your help. The problem I have more than the financial dilemmas is the fact that my schedule is going to be the way I don’t want it. I hate having others control my education (wasn’t high school enough)?</p>

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<p>@so </p>

<p>It’s not others controlling your education. The degree requirements are clearly posted online, and they’re available to anyone who wants to see them. YOU agreed on May 1st to those requirements and the expectation that you will fulfill them in order to receive your degree. It’s not like NYU popped up and said “HAHA!” and then threw stuff at you.</p>

<p>High school -was- different in the fact that you as a student had almost no choice in what to take. You had a choice here, and you chose to take the offer of LSP.</p>

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<p>You can cut cost tremendously if you do several things such as the health insurance can be waived if you are covered by your parents insurance. I did this for my daughter saving a lot of money.
Also you can buy your computer and all the supplies, hardware, software from the NYU computer store and have the costs deferred over the next 4 semesters, so you don’t have to outlay the cash upfront. We took advantage of this arrangement.
My daughter split the cost of the microfridge with her roomates.
You can by your linens from any store, we bought hers from Bed Bath and Beyond with those 20% off coupons that come in the mail every other week.
She also bought her books on line used, but only get them after you start class to make sure that you will be getting only the books required. Sometimes the listing that is posted online in the bookstore may be slightly different than the actual class and you may not need all of them.
Just some suggestions. And also, you are suppose to enjoy your college years so if you want to have fun than by all means go for it, but just remember, you are spending your parents money and money that you will have to pay back. Make the most of everything. Time management will be your challenge the first year. Believe what I say.</p>