<p>i am a bit biased, but here's my ranking:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale/Penn</li>
<li>Dartmouth/Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Cornell/Brown</li>
</ol>
<p>Ranking methodology.. well, I ranked schools with the most $$ for research/medicine and stuff. Also, by reading the brochures, i feel that some schools expose undergrads a lot more to research stuff.</p>
<p>If this is not an Ivy forum, I would put in WUStL and Duke near Yale. :)</p>
<p>My ranking for sciences/medicine/research is:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard/Cornell</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>UPenn/Columbia/Yale/Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth </li>
</ol>
<p>Minus Harvard and Cornell though, the Ivy Leagues would be not be very good in sciences/medicine/research.</p>
<p>How so? I thought Yale and Penn were great in sciences/medicine/research.. hm</p>
<p>no, yale is terrible in the sciences
they are currently allotting a TON of money to the sciences, but they are still catching up with harvard and columbia</p>
<p>I have to put Princeton at #1...princeton has the best research opportunities in math and science. Then: </p>
<p>Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Penn
Cornell
Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>i dont see how you can put Dartmouth and Brown above Cornell in terms of research...Cornell has much more resources and opportunities for this</p>
<p>Cornell has the second best engineering dept of the ivies, and it is first or second in most science disciplines for the ivies. </p>
<p>I don't understand why Cornell is considered to be so "low" in the east coast. Us west coasters consider Cornell to be above Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Speak for yourself! I'm from the West Coast, and I definitely stick Cornell @ the bottom of the Ivy heap (which is not to say it's bad).</p>
<p>^ Where did u go to school? I went to Berkeley. The perception is that Cornell is quite a good school because of their focus on academic research. Most of the people I know have not heard of Brown or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>BTW in case you haven't noticed, this ranking is based on science/medicine/research. Yes, you either did not notice, or do not know much about research reputations of the ivies.</p>
<p>Cornell should definitely be above Brown...regarding Dartmouth, it depends what career you want to go into...Dartmouth has a better alumni network and better recruiting for business, which might not mean anything to you if you're interested in research and science, in which case you should go to cornell...everything works out.</p>
<p>Wow, there is almost no pattern at all in these rankings... I say we give up and admit that all of the ivys WAY above average in these areas! lol</p>
<p>You guys have got the ranking all wrong....research spending is here as follow...i also have the link for the information. I guess people here just hate Cornell, thats why its always ranked last. furthermore, it has the best engineering department in the ivy league, and i think the only ivy league school to have a synchotron, also the only ivy league team to beat MIT in world robotics soccer championship and world underwater submarine championship(these are two biggest engineering competitions). Besides, without Cornell ivy league blows in engineering (Princeton engineering is quite respectable though). Quite ironic that some ivies which are considered to be the lowest(in the ivy league) are spending more.
1.University of Pennsylvania
2.Cornell University
3.Columbia University
4.Harvard University
5.Yale University
6.Princeton
7.Dartmouth
8.Brown.
others are not ranked in top20 i think.
<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf04330/pdf/tabb37.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.nsf.gov/sbe/srs/nsf04330/pdf/tabb37.pdf</a>
Note- these rankings are excluding medical research...the ranking might change a little bit in harvard's favor giving it the #1 spot.</p>
<p>Penn Bioeng/Materials Eng are decent</p>
<p>Isn't anyone tired of the ratings game?</p>
<p>Visit the schools, see what feels good to you and be happy with your choice. None of them are in any essential way objectively better than any others when you are making a subjective decision, and you are. The school you'll pick is for you, not mankind.</p>
<p>There's and old saying I'll twist around to say:</p>
<p>"There are no bad schools . . .just bad matches!"</p>
<p>And for those who haven't heard of Dartmouth or Brown.</p>
<p>First, you're on the Dartmouth forum . . . apparently you just stumbled on (your friends should get out more often).
Anyhow they're nice little schools in the east that tend not to be very obsessed with their prestige.</p>
<p>my ranking is for prestige :P
harvard
princeton
yale
Penn
Columbia
Dartmouth
Cornell</p>
<p>Prestige Wise it should be thus:</p>
<p>Harvard/Princeton/Yale</p>
<p>Penn/Columbia Dartmouth</p>
<p>Brown</p>
<p>Cornell</p>
<p>It doesn't really matter though. You can get a great education at any of these schools.</p>
<p>Atlantic Monthly ranks top 10</p>
<ol>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Brown<br></li>
<li>Swarthmore.</li>
</ol>
<ol>
<li>Harvard University
2 University of California, Berkeley
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4 California Institute of Technology
5 Oxford University
6 Cambridge University
7 Stanford University
8 Yale University
9 Princeton University
10 London School of Economics</li>
</ol>
<p>how can many of you be so ignorant an uninformed, the only sensible poster here is angel_handsome, the original question was to rate the ivy schools in terms of science/research/medicine, the list would have to be...
1. Cornell
2. Princeton
3. Harvard
the rest don't even matter because they are that bad, i truly believe that most of you don't like Cornell or put it down because you have read someplace someone elses opinion that it was bad, try to make your own opinions for a change, harvard is not always the best at everything in the ivy's</p>
<p>On what do you base that ranking, Psquared? I'd agree if you were ranking the top 3 Ivies in engineering, but this would hardly be a sensible list if you were ranking other sciences, or even research opportunities.</p>
<p>Consider, for example, the USNews rankings of department strength:</p>
<p>In biological sciences, within the Ivies, it would be Harvard, followed by Princeton, Yale and a tie between Columbia and Cornell.</p>
<p>In chemistry, it would be Harvard, followed by a tie between Columbia and Cornell, and then Princeton.</p>
<p>In physics, it would be Harvard and Princeton, followed by Cornell and then Columbia.</p>
<p>In mathematics, it would be Harvard and Princeton, folloed by Yale and then Cornell.</p>
<p>The opportunity for medical research is generally associated with the presence of a top medical school and teaching hospitals. Among the Ivies, the top medical schools are Harvard, followed by Penn and Columbia, with Yale and Cornell trailing.</p>
<p>those usnwr rankings are for graduate schools. the rankings probably vary for undergrad programs.</p>