<p>Shoot me now.</p>
<p>D had two friends match in derm. They were both excellent students and both applied to 75+ places, transitional + derm. I had no idea! This seems wild to me. Glad D didnāt consider thisā¦</p>
<p>D1 is going into EM and is talking about applying to 50-70 programs.</p>
<p>50-70? I did not think EM was that competitive? I mean, good scores etc, yes, but 50+ apps? I thought that was for ROAD specialties!</p>
<p>EM and surgery are now comparablycompetitive and require basically the same STEP scores. (Havenāt you heard EM is now now part of the revised EROAD list of most desireable specialties? Good money, regularāif rotating-- hours. No call.)</p>
<p>Actually I asked D1āand she said sheāll be putting in 40-60 applications which is pretty typical for EM.</p>
<p>āGood money, regularāif rotating-- hours. No callā</p>
<p>Seriously? Emergency medicine? </p>
<p>You would think there is a dearth of women in the field.</p>
<p>Seriously. </p>
<p>EM has rotating shift work (so you will end up work nights, weekends and holidays routinely), but there is NO call. And starting salaries are quite good, but donāt increase over time like they do in other specialties. Additionally, itās one of the few specialties where itās easy to work part-time.</p>
<p>[Advice</a> for Emergency Medicine Applicants | WMed](<a href=āWMedā>WMed)</p>
<p>Not sure why more women donāt go into the field (well, except for the fact that the specialty is overwhelmingly male----- 75-25 male-femaleā and has something of a cowboy mentality.)</p>
<p>Well. I couldnāt sleep so I spent some time googling. This residency stuff is the most convoluted process imaginable. </p>
<p>For derm there are 3 types of programs. </p>
<p>The more normal or āAdvancedā where you apply to an internship year and a 3-year dermatology residency at the same time. The internship is usually a āPreliminaryā year in IM (some do peds or surgery) but can be a āTransitionalā year. Common wisdom is that Prelim years are more difficult and possibly more āimpressiveā. </p>
<p>āCategoricalā programs, 4 -year programs where the intern year is built-in. There were 23 such positions in 2012. Used to be 28 (dunno what happened.)</p>
<p>āCombinedā programs. Like peds/derm or IM/derm. Likewise very limited. </p>
<p>Then there are fellowships, pre-residency, to beef up oneās app primarily by derm specific research. (My kidās research year will serve that purpose, hopefully.) HHMI and Doris Duke are among the ānamedā fellowships. </p>
<p>And then there are fellowships, post-residency. Like Surgical/Procedural or Dermatopathology. </p>
<p>This may be very basic for some, but it is all new to me. I had seen all the words but they were all jumbled together to me. 
Thought it might help somebody else.</p>
<p>curm and somemomā</p>
<p>Try this database</p>
<p><a href=āFREIDA Residency Program Database | Medical Fellowship Database | AMAā>FREIDA Residency Program Database | Medical Fellowship Database | AMA;
<p>And one other issue I havenāt seen mentioned is that some residency programs require applicants to have or be eligible for an unrestricted [state of program location] medical license.</p>
<p>Helpful.
Especially work hours/benefits by program. Thanks. Still want the data on accepted residents eadad wrote about by program.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt you can find those things on the internet. Itās pretty much learned through word of mouth. Just like how most schools dont publish their step 1 avg</p>
<p>But if anyone could have found itā¦;)</p>
<p>I need to clarify that the data I was referring to related to all the Gen Surg programs. There may be similar info on other specialties but since we werenāt looking at any other specialty, I donāt know for certain if there is.</p>
<p>Iāll do a few searches and see if I can find similar resources in other areas.</p>
<p>What is the best source to search residency programs in order to determine whether research is required or optional or even available?</p>
<p>wowmom - nights, weekends, holidays - works out ok for a single woman but I suspect women do know how to plan longer term in terms of kids etc.</p>
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<p>Even 40-60 is going to be on the far side of the high end for EM. 50-70 would have been downright insane unless you have a red flag like a failed Step 1/2, punched a professor in the face, etc.
As a specialty, it is enjoying a huge surge of popularity over the last cycle or two, and Iāll be interested in the final results of this yearās match, but no one in their right mind needs to apply to that many residencies to match in EM. Unlike many of the other competative specialties (i.e. neurosurg, urology, derm, etc) which may have 1-3 spots per year (necessitating applying to more programs), EM residencies have anywhere from 5-20 residents per class. Iāve heard that rather than the āgolden numberā of 10 interviews, you should shoot for 100 āspotsā amongst the entering classes of the places you interviewed. So if you interviewed at 5 places with 20 residents per class, youād be just as set as interviewing at 10 places with 10 residents per class. Canāt vouch for how true this is, but it seems reasonable.</p>
<p>Jeez. That 100 spot thing for interviews in derm would be impossible. Most programs have 2-4 spots. That would be 50-25 interviews. :eek: There must be different math applicable. </p>
<p>On the slightly brighter side for derm applicants, it appears that 79% of US seniors from US med schools find a spot. Somewhere. </p>
<p>In my googling I did find one school (Wake) that listed the mean score for interviewed derm applicants last cycle (240). </p>
<p>digutmb.blogspot.com is a good student derm interest group run site. </p>
<p>derminterest.org looks reasonable to me. </p>
<p>For general discussion and plastics specifically, psmatchinsider looks reasonable to me.</p>
<p>Yeah, Iāve only heard it in relation to EM - best not generalized for other specialties.</p>
<p>But the same logic of ā10 interviewsā applies for Derm, where your chances of matching are greater than 90% starting with 9 interviews and going up from there. The trouble is getting that many interviews in the first place ;)</p>
<p>Looks like weāve been looking at the same derm sites. Just went to those sites a few days ago too.</p>
<p>I read that there are some programs out there that set their initial computer screen at 240. Also read that the mean number of contiguous ranks of US matched applicants is 9. So I guess 9 interviews would be a good number to shoot for.</p>